Tom Pelphrey

And they're like, we're crazy.

And I was like, oh, I'm fucking crazy too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Non-crazy people don't go this route.

I know.

And then I got to see how beautiful it was.

I actually think that entire program is perfect.

It feels like divinely inspired.

Those steps, I can't think of a better, more perfect expression of living a spiritual life, like keeping yourself good and strong and useful.

And it's so beautiful.

It was also interesting finally going and really understanding what the steps were.

I didn't have a sponsor and work the steps until I was seven or eight years sober, but I understood them long before then, but was noticing just through my own experience, looking back on the steps, being like, wow, I did a lot of those things, not thoroughly, not perfectly, but spontaneously.

Even without the program, just after a month or two of sobriety, just thinking and being like, I need to call this person and say, I'm really sorry.

That wasn't the best version of me.

I let you down.

I can't imagine how difficult that was.

And kind of naturally just wanting to do that, which to me is the greatest testimony to what the steps are that I could give, which is like there is something there.

so deeply real about that process.

Those steps are just an articulation of something that is deeper.

Like it's coming from a deeper place and we're just gonna name what it is and like how to do it.