Tom Pelphrey
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard, and I'm joined by Monica Miles. Hi. Today we have, for me, a revelation of last year. For others, not. Old news, because he's been great so many times. Yes. But I was exposed to him in Task last year. Ooh.
What a show.
Tom Pelfrey. He's an Emmy-nominated actor. He was the bad guy with a heart of gold in Task. He also was mind-blowing on Ozark. Love and Death, Iron Fist, and Guiding Light at the beginning. Guiding Light. And won daytime Emmys.
I probably watched him in Guiding Light because I used to watch that with my grandma.
Was that one of your shows? It was. It was one of my shows.
I probably watched a young him.
If you've not seen Task, get on it. It streams on HBO right now and it's just a beautiful show. And then in addition to him, you have Mark Ruffalo. Jeez Louise.
It's such a good show all around.
Powerhouse. Please enjoy Tom Pelfrey. He's an armchair expert.
I feel like this is a very long time coming.
I know, brother. We have so many friends in common. Well, Zegers for sure. Zegers. Who else? Well, I just feel like from that world, there must be more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. I guess I missed some. There's no chance we've ever been in a meeting together, is there? I can't remember. But I did have a panic this morning. Like, oh my God, what if we were in a meeting together? If you're best friends. Where do you have to be at 1230?
I'm so curious. Be honest. Something for a photo shoot and some kind of interview, but I don't really know what it is. Okay, that's good.
You're just getting carded from place to place at this point.
I just fucking honestly, they tell me where to go. I say, okay. That's right. I do my best to show up. That's right. Yeah.
Have you had to adopt that strategy? Because I kind of watched my wife operate that way for years. I was like, I need to know everything I'm doing so far out in advance, like control freak. And then I'd watch her just kind of wake up and figure out what she's doing that day. And it worked out just fine for her. And so slowly I've been like, oh yeah, I'll figure out what I'm doing tomorrow. Have you always been this way or did you evolve to this?
No, I've kind of always been this way, but to the extreme that it was not great. Okay. A little detrimental. Yeah. Yeah, really just not thinking at all about. Not picking up in interviews basically. Just thinking about tomorrow, yeah. But I guess it is a good thing to do to not think too far ahead when you're busy because then you get a little overwhelmed.
I just produce a bunch of anxiety, obviously, because I'm not in today. I'm focused so much on tomorrow. Do you feel like you're more prone to have anxiety? Yeah. You know, I have zero in my waking hours. Like if you asked me, do you have anxiety? I don't at night. Clearly, I do, because I wake up many, many nights a week and just ruminate on stuff that's coming up in the future for an hour. So clearly, I do have a lot of anxiety. But when I'm awake, I'm not fearful of it. It wakes you up from sleep.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Have you ever read Jung? Carl Jung? Carl Jung, no. Just so much of it is you use the subconscious. So often in a Jungian session, you'll just talk about your dreams. And I wonder if these things are waking you up in the middle of the night, that there might be a way in there that you're not consciously experiencing it, but maybe there's something deeper.
Yeah. I mean, I was just in Nashville for a week where we have a house and I don't work there and I sleep like a baby there. Wow. And I don't ever wake up with anxiety because I have literally nothing to do.
Yeah.
What's your anxiety level?
Not high, not very high. Again, back to the not thinking too much into the future. If anything in the past, and this is a lot less so recently, but I would feel depression at times. Some people are kind of more one way, some people a little bit more the other. So just like melancholy? Yeah, just the kind of sadness sometimes coming out of nowhere, not necessarily attached to anything.
Yeah. And then the future is bad, right?
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–55:44
2
How did Tom Pelphrey's high school teacher influence his acting career?
55:44–56:22
3
What challenges does Tom face with religion and spirituality?
56:22–56:59
4
How does Tom describe the importance of the fourth step in recovery?
56:59–57:51
5
What insights does Tom share about vulnerability in recovery?
57:51–59:23
6
How does Tom reflect on his experiences with identity and achievement?
59:23–1:53:54