Tom Steyer

I look at this and I say, this is a question is, can we convince the people of California that this is something necessary, that the money is absolutely necessary, and that it's just.

And in both of these cases, I believe that to be true.

And I'm overwhelmingly confident that we can do it.

Because the truth of the matter is what everybody's talking about here, when we're talking about doing redevelopment,

which is what Matt said, which I think is a good idea.

That's a billion dollars a year.

Not enough.

We're talking about we need to build a lot of houses and we need the cities and counties to come along with us.

Basically, we need to fund them to be able to do it.

And then you're asking, what's your, you know, what's your stick?

And Javier was saying, you know, well, we can sue them.

And he did say it was last resort.

But the truth of the matter is that doesn't get it done in the time frame.

Money is actually how we're going to get this done.

Because the answer is going to be, you do it, you get the money.

You don't do it, you don't get the money.

You do more than your share, you get more than your share.

This is a real, we need the ability, you're talking about relationship, I'm talking about incentive.

How do we actually incent people?

Everyone's assuming these guys are doing something wrong and there is nimbyism.