Tom Verrilli
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first heard Aug 2026
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But I've actually found that for a lot of the cases, you go and talk to somebody who spent the last five, six years as a senior director at Meta, who spends their entire time in alignment meetings, and they miss actually talking to customers and talking to engineers and shipping things.
Yep.
if it is my greatest desire that the whatnot product bench basically looks like that.
All of these people with like great skills and great understanding and actually end up coming and building as ICs.
Spicy take, but go and take the comp required to have...
five L5s reporting to one L7 and then four L7s reporting to one VP and now total the comp of that product org and turn around and say, what if I had three people?
Why can't I pay them all D2 VP money, particularly if they're having the level of impact that those folks are having there?
I certainly think the product ends up being better.
One of the things that folks have been telling us for a long time is, yeah, that won't scale.
Like, oh, leadership isn't going to be able to stay hands-on with what's going on.
You're going to need to go and hire tons more layers.
And what we found is that's actually not true, right?
It requires a different muscle.
You have to make an effort to make sure you genuinely understand, you know, like a ground truth.
An example we use all the time is we'll be talking in a growth meeting and someone will say, oh yeah, but that was fraud.
You know, turn around and be like, how do you know that was fraud?
Oh, it's labeled in the data set as fraud.
Okay.
Do you know how it gets labeled?
I assume someone in Ops does it.
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