Tom Verrilli

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · This CPO regrets that product management exists | Tom Verrilli (CPO of Whatnot) · 2 Aug 2026 podcast

You're obviously just, people are people, right?

They have good days, they have bad days.

Sometimes it can be as simple as like, is your mind made up on this?

Or are you open to input?

If the answer is like, no, I'm pretty set that this is the answer, shut up.

Don't pick a fight for the purposes of picking a fight.

If the answer is like, actually, yes, you're welcome to push me, but I'd need to see data.

If I don't have any data in the room, if it's just my opinion, then the terms of the debate are pretty clear.

If I have fresh data, bring it.

If I really believe a thing and I don't have data, question why.

or go get it and then go back to them with the data.

But if the answer is like, if nobody's got data, it's just two opinions, the CEO's opinion is going to win.

And like, that's okay.

Check your ego at the door, get to the answer.

But if you've got data, bring it.

And then sometimes it's like, just make sure that you're debating for the right reasons.

I think it's, you know, easy in your PM theater that you're describing of like wanting to make sure that you set the framing and the tone.

And there are genuinely times in our industry where like nomenclature matters and exactly what word is used can be really important.

But a lot of the time it doesn't.

explain so i mentioned earlier i'm not huge on frameworks but i do think uh there's a mental model which is quite useful that goes to the thing that you and i discussed earlier on like uh think through a problem mental do the mental work even if you're not shipping at all which is like obviously the magic of code is that you can kind of ship things and iterate really quickly and get data as you go and i think one of the trappings that comes with that is uh you're just iterating forward and throwing spaghetti at a wall and you don't really know what direction you're going in

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