Tommy Bowe

He's going back to Australia, which was always expected.

But a big one that we're losing is Werner Koch.

And Werner Koch has been...

I nearly see, say, being more instrumental to Ulster than, maybe not, but certainly on a par in terms of the culture, in terms of his attitude and everything that he's brought to the Ulster jersey that he's bought into it.

And I think he wanted to say, you know, he loves

He loves his time up in Belfast and unfortunately just budgets and Mary Beth spoke about this before when we were speaking to him that they have to make tough decisions and this is the way the game is so it's not just Leinster.

Everybody is in this position and I was devastated when I saw Werner Koch happen to leave as well but

this is what you got to do.

And unfortunately, there isn't just a green slate to sign whoever you want.

I just think like listen seeing Will Connors going to Connors seeing the likes of Frawley going to Connors like it's too late like I think they should have gone a couple of years to one of the other provinces where they're going to get week in week out game time but listen that's up to them and they've made the decision this time to go so good on them I really hope it goes well

Well, he was on a pony contract, I believe.

So that's a P-O-N-I, Player of National Interest contract.

And I believe that obviously with the amount of young Irish players coming through the system, that they have to put that money into the next generation, the Ballycoons and the Tommy O'Briens and the next crops coming through.

So obviously that meant that Leinster were going to have to pick up the slack for it and Leinster were deciding, you know what, maybe we can't.

commit to that sort of money so listen we wish him all the best he's been an amazing servant in Irish rugby I think the top scorer now for Leinster rugby as well and I hope and I'll be really interested to see whether Leinster give him the final farewell in Croke Park next week you know I really hope that he does get to finish out his career on this high because he did kind of make reference to kind of not everybody gets the

the fairy tale goodbye that they all think they deserve.

But I really do believe for everything that's been done to Leinster, he deserves to play.

reflect his time within it like he's loved and he's left both a blue jersey and a green jersey in a better spot so he should be I hope he looks at all his time because he's been brilliant as opposed to the last few weeks He's a character of Irish rugby like he's great fun James Lowe and I just feel he's been shielded away you know this announcement we haven't heard from him I'd love to do an interview with him I'd love to chat to him love to have the crack with him but again it's just

You know what I mean?

Put Rico Ioane out there.