Tommy Vitor

For what it's worth.

So, you know, in the interest of like wanting to learn from mistakes from the Obama administration, um, you know, we were in the white house in 2009 and

when the grieve movement rose up, President Obama, you know, sort of did not full-throatedly support that movement at the time because there was concern that it could kind of steal their thunder as like a glib way to do it.

But, you know, distract from what was a clear internal Iranian-led movement and suddenly make it about the U.S., which was sort of the, it's always Iran's propaganda, right?

Which is, this is like a U.S.

Zionist movement.

You know, puppet movement.

It's not real.

It's astroturf.

I asked Obama about this in 2022 when we interviewed him.

Here's what he had to say.

I thought that was really interesting, Ben, that he kind of

wanted to make that point, kind of like pivoted to pointing out that, you know, he felt like that was a mistake and he wished, you know, we had been more full-throated in 2009 in support of the green movement.

Or the US arming some opposition that some...

You know, exile tells us we should be giving weapons to.

I mean, look at Syria, right?

Like all these efforts to foment regime change in Syria for 15 years failed until a former ISIS guy, former al-Qaeda guy decided to drive his truck to fucking Damascus and took the place over.

And here we are.

That is, I think, a definite.

Okay, so that's it for us for the news section.