Torsten Reil

And what we did from the beginning at Helsing is we made a commitment to ourselves, but also to the outside world that we would take ethics really seriously. There are two reasons for it. One of them is as a company that's based in democratic countries, we believe we have a special responsibility to think about ethics and how our technology is used and who we make it available to.

And what we did from the beginning at Helsing is we made a commitment to ourselves, but also to the outside world that we would take ethics really seriously. There are two reasons for it. One of them is as a company that's based in democratic countries, we believe we have a special responsibility to think about ethics and how our technology is used and who we make it available to.

And what we did from the beginning at Helsing is we made a commitment to ourselves, but also to the outside world that we would take ethics really seriously. There are two reasons for it. One of them is as a company that's based in democratic countries, we believe we have a special responsibility to think about ethics and how our technology is used and who we make it available to.

Secondly, we want to attract, we want to be a broad church, we want to attract all kinds of different people with different political views, backgrounds, etc. And to accommodate those people, you need to give everyone in the company the commitment that we think together carefully about the pros and cons of certain decisions.

Secondly, we want to attract, we want to be a broad church, we want to attract all kinds of different people with different political views, backgrounds, etc. And to accommodate those people, you need to give everyone in the company the commitment that we think together carefully about the pros and cons of certain decisions.

Secondly, we want to attract, we want to be a broad church, we want to attract all kinds of different people with different political views, backgrounds, etc. And to accommodate those people, you need to give everyone in the company the commitment that we think together carefully about the pros and cons of certain decisions.

Decisions always have to be made eventually by the founders, but the decision process, you can include everyone. And that's what we've done from the beginning. So we have many ethics workshops, which are extremely well attended. We now have to break them up into several subgroups. What ethical elements come up that you did not expect to come up?

Decisions always have to be made eventually by the founders, but the decision process, you can include everyone. And that's what we've done from the beginning. So we have many ethics workshops, which are extremely well attended. We now have to break them up into several subgroups. What ethical elements come up that you did not expect to come up?

Decisions always have to be made eventually by the founders, but the decision process, you can include everyone. And that's what we've done from the beginning. So we have many ethics workshops, which are extremely well attended. We now have to break them up into several subgroups. What ethical elements come up that you did not expect to come up?

First of all, even the complexity around who do you sell it to is interesting because they're very obvious ones that we'll all agree on. But then there are ones in between which are... Sorry, who do we agree on?

First of all, even the complexity around who do you sell it to is interesting because they're very obvious ones that we'll all agree on. But then there are ones in between which are... Sorry, who do we agree on?

First of all, even the complexity around who do you sell it to is interesting because they're very obvious ones that we'll all agree on. But then there are ones in between which are... Sorry, who do we agree on?

Yeah, for example, that we would agree on. And then there are others where it becomes a bit more complex. One of the main reasons we do these workshops is that we get everyone to contribute to the decision process, but also for everyone to build what we call this ethics muscle. Because for me, everything was kind of, there were red lines, everything was black and white and it was kind of easy.

Yeah, for example, that we would agree on. And then there are others where it becomes a bit more complex. One of the main reasons we do these workshops is that we get everyone to contribute to the decision process, but also for everyone to build what we call this ethics muscle. Because for me, everything was kind of, there were red lines, everything was black and white and it was kind of easy.

Yeah, for example, that we would agree on. And then there are others where it becomes a bit more complex. One of the main reasons we do these workshops is that we get everyone to contribute to the decision process, but also for everyone to build what we call this ethics muscle. Because for me, everything was kind of, there were red lines, everything was black and white and it was kind of easy.

The more you dive into a particular topic, the harder actually it becomes to make these calls and the more complex it becomes. And that is something that we didn't just want to decide kind of in a small group of people or some small ethics group. We wanted everyone to contribute to it so that everyone had buy-in and understood the pros and cons.

The more you dive into a particular topic, the harder actually it becomes to make these calls and the more complex it becomes. And that is something that we didn't just want to decide kind of in a small group of people or some small ethics group. We wanted everyone to contribute to it so that everyone had buy-in and understood the pros and cons.

The more you dive into a particular topic, the harder actually it becomes to make these calls and the more complex it becomes. And that is something that we didn't just want to decide kind of in a small group of people or some small ethics group. We wanted everyone to contribute to it so that everyone had buy-in and understood the pros and cons.

Not everyone may agree with the decisions that we eventually take, but everyone can see how we arrived at those decisions. What decision did you take that was most unpopular? I don't think decisions have been particularly unpopular yet. We just recently announced that we are building strike drones. We built strike drone software as well.

Not everyone may agree with the decisions that we eventually take, but everyone can see how we arrived at those decisions. What decision did you take that was most unpopular? I don't think decisions have been particularly unpopular yet. We just recently announced that we are building strike drones. We built strike drone software as well.