Tracey Neville

I'd have still been watching him bat now.

Didn't they used to call you Padrash?

You were called Padrash at one point, Phil, because you were in that long.

I think discipline, really.

I think and respect.

They always said if you respect the people that you're with, they'll give you that encouragement and respect back.

They were also invested in us and I think that was huge.

They never refused to take us anywhere.

They always said, if you're committed, we will take you.

You can achieve whatever you want.

And they never put any barrier in our way.

And people think sometimes that our parents could have been trophy parents, but they definitely weren't.

They only took us to places that we wanted to go and what we were committed to.

And if we didn't show commitment to anything, then they weren't invested in it.

And I think that was huge in the way that we...

we've really attacked our careers going forward because I feel that when we do commit to something like the head coaches and managerial stuff, we do commit 100% and put our whole lives in it.

And I think that's huge for our family.

I was the better footballer, Geoff.

Geoff, I was the better footballer.

They just didn't have any football when I was younger.