Trent Horn
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 8 Jun
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And so I'll lose my salvation if I engage in them.
So you're saying when it comes to the fathers, the catechism says they are witnesses to sacred tradition, not that they are it.
So just as the church's authority helps us to determine what is the meaning of sacred scripture, it helps us understand how tradition is illustrated in the fathers.
But we don't treat the fathers like they're just some other kind of Bible to decode.
But I will say, though, if you say that you like the fathers and you fully agree with them, as I brought up earlier, though, they universally say, even Protestants admit this, that baptism is what regenerates and saves.
But I don't think you agree with them.
I would say baptism saves, and it is the ordinary means of salvation.
But God has bound salvation to the sacraments, but he is not bound by them.
So, for example, the church teaches that if someone wants to become Catholic and they're going to walk across the street to be baptized and they get hit by a bus, the church has always recognized that's called baptism of desire.
Or someone wants to get baptized in ancient Rome and they find out they're Christians, they get fed to the lions.
We'd say, well, yeah, they're saved.
They underwent baptism of blood.
Only by being fully united to Christ could they have had the spiritual grace to give a witness to him to death.
in that testimony.
The Church has always recognized there's other ways beyond baptism of water, baptism of blood, baptism of desire, but the ordinary means is receiving water baptism.
And that's something also many Protestants believe, like Lutherans and Anglicans believe.
I've had a friend on my channel, Marco Arroyo.
He's a Church of Christ minister, and he has a channel called In Between Sundays.
And so we've dialogued.
about some of these questions, and we also do jiu-jitsu for fun.
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