Trent Horn
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 8 Jun
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And that would make sense if the Lutheran view is saying, well, no.
So it's a symbol of Jesus.
Jesus is communicated through the bread and wine.
The Lutheran view is called sacramental union.
I think the Reformed call it consubstantiation, but Lutherans are like, we never called it that, dude.
Come on.
Because the Reformed are trying to say, you guys are basically like Catholics.
They're transubstantiation.
Lutherans are just consubstantiation.
And they're like, dude, come on.
We didn't know.
The Lutherans would say the bread and wine contain Jesus.
They contain him, and so it affects even the forgiveness of sins.
Where Lutherans would stop short is Catholics and Orthodox would say the bread and wine is Jesus, that what we call bread and wine no longer remain.
And so the word transubstantiation, it's a medieval scholastic term to describe this change, that what appears, they're the appearances, but the substance has changed.
And so in the early church, like the Eastern, the Greek fathers, I think it was Gregory of Nyssa, he used the term metastoichiosis.
It literally means trans-elementation.
So that's where we have to get into substance and accidents.
So to make a very rough analogy, you can't press too literally.
We could get makeup artists and wardrobe people and plastic surgeons, and they could dye your hair and give you the curly cues, contacts, all the other stuff, make you look like me.
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