Trent Horn
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 8 Jun
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But what we are actually receiving, we would say, no, we're not just saying that bread and wine are containing Jesus, we say we are receiving the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ.
And the early Christians, like what I said about baptism, they are very clear about this.
Like Ignatius of Antioch in the year 107
along with saying obey the bishop as Jesus Christ obeys the Father, which is, that's wild.
I don't know if I've ever heard a Protestant say something like that.
He said that heretics abstain from the Eucharist because they do not confess that it is the flesh and blood of our Savior, Jesus Christ.
And they say, it's not that, so I'm not going to receive that.
but receiving it to say, or Justin Martyr in the year 165, he's saying, not as ordinary bread and wine do we receive these things, but as the body and blood of that Jesus Christ who was crucified.
So if you have that understanding of the sacramental worldview, a good book, if your listeners want to go deeper on that, is called Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist by Brant Petrie.
What can be hard for us to understand, a lot of times you'll understand the Catholic faith when you start to understand Judaism really well.
I've brought Jewish people to Mass, and they'll say, this is just like temple, sort of.
And I'm like, yeah, it's the fulfillment.
It's the fulfillment of Jewish worship found in the true Messiah, Jesus Christ.
And so you see that under the Eucharist, all what Jesus says about the bread of life, about the manna that come down from heaven, it can be very difficult to understand that without understanding
the endurance of the Passover, the manna, manhu in Hebrew and the Old Testament, that seeing all these Jewish roots, that's something that's attracted me.
And many other, a lot of other Jews convert to Catholicism because they see that, oh, wow, if Jesus is the Messiah, what God gave us in the Old Covenant, it's not just done away with, it's found its fulfillment.
Jesus said, I've come not to abolish the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think Jesus' real presence in the Eucharist is different than the presence of when two or three are gathered in his name?
In a way, yes.
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