Tristan Harris

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1,019 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 17 Sep

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Your Undivided Attention · Enough Debate about the AI Jobpocalypse. We Need To Plan for the Messy Middle. · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

On the other hand, you hear from some techno-optimists that there's nothing to see here.

AI is actually creating more jobs than it destroys.

Here's David Friedberg from the All In podcast from June.

But if you tune to other parts of the debate, you see the Financial Times reporting there's already been a 40% decrease of U.S.

job listings for people who've just graduated.

And when these facts get traded back and forth, no one can know what's actually true.

And then nothing actually happens.

And caught in the middle of this debate are actual workers, balancing between the two, just trying to figure out what does this mean for me and my family right now?

Should my kid actually go to college?

Will my job be safe?

And as long as that debate stays alive, nobody plans or takes action for what's coming.

And so today on the show, we want to follow the incentives and show you where they're actually taking us in the very near future.

Our returning guest, Molly Kinder, recently left her position as senior fellow of the Brookings Institution to be the founding CEO of a new organization dedicated to responding to AI's impact on jobs.

And I will say that her Substack has some of the most clear-eyed analysis about the impact of AI on our economy that I have ever seen.

And what I appreciated so much about this conversation is the systems-level thinking that Molly is demonstrating.

Where specifically will AI hit concentrated parts of our economy?

What are the feedback loops and second and third order consequences of those effects?

I hope this conversation resolves the debate around these questions so we can actually finally take action before these problems hit.

So Molly, thank you so much for coming on your Undivided Attention.

So I just want to start by giving a shout out to your sub stack called A Kinder Future, which we're going to lead to in the show notes.

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