Tristan Harris

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1,019 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 17 Sep

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Your Undivided Attention · Enough Debate about the AI Jobpocalypse. We Need To Plan for the Messy Middle. · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

But honestly, when I when I read your essay, The Messy Middle, it was some of the most clear eyed and thoughtful thinking that I have seen about AI in the labor market.

And I just that's why we wanted to do this episode.

I'm just a huge fan of your work.

Well, you're off to a good start.

So why did you call it the messy middle?

What do you mean by that?

And talk about this piece.

Right.

So just to replay that for listeners, because you have these three named realities that we're probably going to reference throughout the episode.

So you're saying reality one is essentially, hey, we're talking about job loss, but if you look at the data, it's not here yet.

So that's kind of the short term reality, right?

Right.

Correct.

And then reality three is this sort of like, you know, many years out in the future, we're going to automate all the jobs, everyone has UBI, and we have abundance for everybody, or something like that.

Right.

And so you're kind of naming the discourses that are happening in the space.

And one of the things you do in this piece that I really love, because you have a very humanistic analysis, and you open up the piece with these two contrasting stories of AI displacement.

And one was a senior USAID official who's thinking about becoming a teacher.

And the other was a semiconductor engineer who had to start driving for Uber.

And you say these stories indicate where the economy is headed.

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