Tristan Harris

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1,019 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 17 Sep

Tristan Harris’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Your Undivided Attention · Enough Debate about the AI Jobpocalypse. We Need To Plan for the Messy Middle. · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

Can you tell us why you think their stories were important?

In addition to the things that you just laid out, you also wrote that with that 60% pay cut for the USAID official, it was a complete identity shift and a career restart in an age when retraining is brutally hard.

And I just felt like that was important because so much of what I like about your analysis, it's like we can talk about whether the thing that a human can do, we can just swap that job for a different job that that human can do.

But inside of that is this complex terrain, almost like the invisible health of the soil.

And an identity doesn't just shift from one job to another.

It's very deep in us.

And so that's kind of a more humanistic analysis that I think aligns with what we think about here at Center for Humane Technology.

So you have this chart in your piece that I think is worth dwelling on for a moment.

And it maps the share of occupations in the economy across time from 1880 to 2020.

So if you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to show it on the screen.

But for those of you who are listening, can you just describe the graph, what it shows, and why you think it's significant for AI as we think about this transition?

So you basically are speaking to the fact that as the technology was added in this skill-based technological change, they made cognitive workers more productive and expanded demand for their skills.

But now AI is changing that.

And you argue that the pain of the messy middle is not going to be evenly distributed, that certain groups are going to feel it much more acutely than others.

So why is that and which groups are going to be affected?

To pull in a quote from my normal co-host in this podcast, Aza, he'll say, if you have a desk job, you won't have a job.

That's kind of a similar line here.

But you also speak to the erosion.

I just want to reference some more lines here from your essay.

The erosion of decent paying clerical customer service and back office work.

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