Tristan Harris
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1,019 appearances
4 recordings
1 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 17 Sep
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And the whole kind of overall point is that it's not this black and white, all or nothing job apocalypse, or everyone's just going to keep getting jobs and finding new things to do.
You know, imagine that, you know, people who used to work in the farm had taken on $200,000 in debt to work on that farm, and then suddenly that job goes away and you have to learn something else.
It's just a different equation than the 50 years we had to migrate from farming to something else.
And the other things that people could move to the trades, like, you know, plumbers, technicians, electricians, can't absorb everyone without the wages for those trades collapsing from oversupply.
Do you want to speak to that too?
And it's something that people in AI say all the time.
Like, oh, people will just find something else to do.
It's not that hard to become an electrician or plumber.
We're just going to have more of those.
What I love about your analysis is it's just a systems analysis.
You're seeing the feedback loop.
Oh, well, then this off route.
And then people usually stop the analysis there.
Everyone will become a plumber.
And you're saying, yeah, but look what happens in the feedback loop as those wages then shift.
It's just so precise and it's really good.
When we had you on the podcast last year, you also shared analysis that you did with the Yale Budget Lab that showed that AI was having very little impact on the occupational mix of the economy.
Are you seeing anything that makes you rethink that conclusion?
To capture this in a meme, Aza and I used an AI generator to make a New Yorker cartoon that had two horses in a carriage saying, there's more horses hired today than ever before, right next to a Model T, you know, sitting next to it.
So now one reason I really resonated with your piece is that you have a healthy skepticism of both the timelines of the kind of AGI believers and of the economists and techno optimists who say there's nothing to worry about here.
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