Tristan Harris
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I don't know any parent who says, yeah, you know, I really want my kids to be growing up feeling manipulated by social Tech designers manipulating their attention, making it impossible to do their homework, making them compare themselves to unrealistic standards of beauty. Like, no one wants that. No one does. We used to have these protections when children watched Saturday morning cartoons.
I don't know any parent who says, yeah, you know, I really want my kids to be growing up feeling manipulated by social Tech designers manipulating their attention, making it impossible to do their homework, making them compare themselves to unrealistic standards of beauty. Like, no one wants that. No one does. We used to have these protections when children watched Saturday morning cartoons.
I don't know any parent who says, yeah, you know, I really want my kids to be growing up feeling manipulated by social Tech designers manipulating their attention, making it impossible to do their homework, making them compare themselves to unrealistic standards of beauty. Like, no one wants that. No one does. We used to have these protections when children watched Saturday morning cartoons.
We cared about protecting children. We would say, you can't advertise to these age children in these ways. But then you take YouTube for Kids and it gobbles up that entire portion of the attention economy, and now all kids are exposed to YouTube for Kids. And all those protections and all those regulations are gone. We're training and conditioning a whole new generation of people
We cared about protecting children. We would say, you can't advertise to these age children in these ways. But then you take YouTube for Kids and it gobbles up that entire portion of the attention economy, and now all kids are exposed to YouTube for Kids. And all those protections and all those regulations are gone. We're training and conditioning a whole new generation of people
We cared about protecting children. We would say, you can't advertise to these age children in these ways. But then you take YouTube for Kids and it gobbles up that entire portion of the attention economy, and now all kids are exposed to YouTube for Kids. And all those protections and all those regulations are gone. We're training and conditioning a whole new generation of people
that when we are uncomfortable or lonely or uncertain or afraid, we have a digital pacifier for ourselves.
that when we are uncomfortable or lonely or uncertain or afraid, we have a digital pacifier for ourselves.
that when we are uncomfortable or lonely or uncertain or afraid, we have a digital pacifier for ourselves.
yeah and great to be here with you megan good to see you again it's haunting to see those scenes from the social dilemma so many years ago and how you know similar they are to where we are now so character.ai what is it so parents should know um that character.ai is this chatbot companion that has been marketed to children it started off being marketed starting i think at 12 years and up
yeah and great to be here with you megan good to see you again it's haunting to see those scenes from the social dilemma so many years ago and how you know similar they are to where we are now so character.ai what is it so parents should know um that character.ai is this chatbot companion that has been marketed to children it started off being marketed starting i think at 12 years and up
yeah and great to be here with you megan good to see you again it's haunting to see those scenes from the social dilemma so many years ago and how you know similar they are to where we are now so character.ai what is it so parents should know um that character.ai is this chatbot companion that has been marketed to children it started off being marketed starting i think at 12 years and up
It was actually featured on the Google Play Store. So it's not just buried somewhere. It was like a featured app when you go to the App Store homepage. I believe Apple featured it as well. And what it is, is it's a company that basically said, just like it's social media, what's social media's business model? It's not to strengthen democracy or to protect children's development.
It was actually featured on the Google Play Store. So it's not just buried somewhere. It was like a featured app when you go to the App Store homepage. I believe Apple featured it as well. And what it is, is it's a company that basically said, just like it's social media, what's social media's business model? It's not to strengthen democracy or to protect children's development.
It was actually featured on the Google Play Store. So it's not just buried somewhere. It was like a featured app when you go to the App Store homepage. I believe Apple featured it as well. And what it is, is it's a company that basically said, just like it's social media, what's social media's business model? It's not to strengthen democracy or to protect children's development.
It's to maximize engagement, to get them using it and scrolling and doom scrolling for as long as possible. Now with social media, with AI, this company, their business model is to get as much training data from kids using this chatbot for as long as possible. So what they want you using it all the time for as many hours a day.
It's to maximize engagement, to get them using it and scrolling and doom scrolling for as long as possible. Now with social media, with AI, this company, their business model is to get as much training data from kids using this chatbot for as long as possible. So what they want you using it all the time for as many hours a day.
It's to maximize engagement, to get them using it and scrolling and doom scrolling for as long as possible. Now with social media, with AI, this company, their business model is to get as much training data from kids using this chatbot for as long as possible. So what they want you using it all the time for as many hours a day.
And it led them to create, you know, what was the race for engagement in social media became the race for intimacy with this chatbot. And it was marketed to kids. And they basically, what they do is you open the app and it shows you this menu of people you can talk to. And what they do is they create little mini characters for every fictional character that a kid might have an attachment to.
And it led them to create, you know, what was the race for engagement in social media became the race for intimacy with this chatbot. And it was marketed to kids. And they basically, what they do is you open the app and it shows you this menu of people you can talk to. And what they do is they create little mini characters for every fictional character that a kid might have an attachment to.