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Tristan Harris

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3171 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And so it's actually hard to imagine all the ways AIs could wipe humans out, because we're going to set up obstacles, but it's going to be smarter than us, it'll get around.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Think about though, it says in the film that it's a little bit like ants.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

If we want to build a highway and there's an ant colony in the way, we just pave over, it's too bad for the ants.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And so to give a couple examples, stepping from like really bad into extinction, the really bad is AI is already better than almost all humans at making computer code, which means it's starting to get better than almost all humans at doing cyber hacking.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And so you could imagine one of the things that an AI could do is take out all electricity, water, hospitals, transportation across every country in the world all at once.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Now, that doesn't wipe us all out, but you could imagine the amount of damage that that would do.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Confusion and chaos and craziness that happens.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And we're only, you know, five missed meals away from anarchy.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Did you say we're only five missed meals away from anarchy?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Yeah.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Yeah, exactly.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Think about what happens in New York City if you can't get food.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Yeah.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

I think this is a good point because what you just said, most of us can't even, we hear you're going to wipe out humanity and everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that won't be in my lifetime.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

And so the fact that you just listed all the different ways it can shut down everything that we're doing, I don't think a lot of people have thought about that.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Well, also when you're using ChatGPT or Claude, you just had this blinking cursor that told you why your baby's burping and it's super helpful.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Why is that blinking cursor?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

How could that destroy the world?

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

Yeah.

The Oprah Podcast
Oprah & Tech Leaders on What AI Means for Your Job, Health, Family & Future

So imagine that we're a bunch of chimpanzees and we're about to birth these super smart chimps called humans.