Tristan Harris
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Podcast Appearances
It was actually two years before I was born.
I watched it on YouTube actually when I was in college and it had a profound impact on me because I couldn't believe it actually happened.
It was an event in world history.
where i maybe 82 or 83 it was it's like 7 p.m on primetime television they aired a two hour long fictionalized movie about what would happen if the us and the soviet union had a nuclear war and they just actually took you through kind of the step-by-step visceralization of that story yeah and
And it scared everybody.
But it was not just scaring.
It was more like, we all know this is a possibility.
We have the drills.
The rhetoric of nuclear war and escalation is going up.
But even the war planners and Reagan's team said that the film really deeply affected them.
Because before that, it was just numbers on spreadsheets.
And then it suddenly became real.
And then the director, Nicholas Meyer, who's now someone I know, he said in many interviews in his biography that when Reagan and Gorbachev did the first arms control talks in Reykjavik, he said the film had a large role in setting up the conditions for those talks.
And that when the Soviet Union saw the film several years later, Russian citizens realized
We're excited to learn that the people in the United States actually cared about this too.
And so there actually is something that when we come together and we say there's something more sacred that's at stake.
We all want our children to have a future.
We all want this to continue.
We love life.
If we want to protect life, then we got to do something about AI.