Tristan Redman

I think when that happens, Syria will move towards a position of asking nations to take their former citizens home. At that point it becomes a very difficult and unpalatable thing to think about what politicians in this country are going to do, and indeed around the world. What's really interesting about Donald Trump is on this issue he has been consistent largely in telling nations to take their former citizens home.

That's such a curiosity to hear, Josh, because here on the domestic front we hear President Trump talk about possible denaturalization of U.S. citizens. And there's been so much unrest and turmoil, as I'm sure you're familiar with, around issues of migration. And it's really striking to hear you say that he's putting pressure on other countries to repatriate some of these people in the ISIS prison camps.

Tietysti ensimmäisen ajan se oli suuri ongelma hänen kanssaan, kun se tuli siltä, että hän pitäisi pitää sivuja Syyassa. Hän ei halunnut jatkaa sivuja Syyassa. Jossain vaiheessa hän pohti muutamia sivuja. Ja kun nämä kampit ovat olemassa, niin siltä on jotain tarvetta, että Yhdysvallat saa sivuja sieltä.

Josh, you mentioned that while these camps are operating, there's a need for a U.S. military presence. And earlier you spoke about pro-ISIS supporters almost kind of running amok in some of these camps. Can you just talk me through who runs these camps and why the United States is involved?

Let me back up for a minute because I'm conscious that it can be a very tangled picture if you're new to the subject. When ISIS's caliphate emerged, Syria was in a state of civil war. It was governed by the dictator Bashar al-Assad and

It wasn't until 2019 that that so-called ISIS caliphate was defeated. And the way that that was done was the US government basically didn't want to put a lot of boots on the ground, neither did the Brits themselves. So they empowered a sort of militia, if you will. And that militia, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, was made up of predominantly Kurds, but also Arabs as well.

He olivat suurin piirtein meidät alapuolella isojen taisteluun. He vahvistivat kalafaita meille, joiden avulla, mutta he vahvistivat kalafaita meille. Jos sanoit meidät, Josh, tarkoitatko globaalista koalitiota isojen taisteluun? Tietysti. Kaikki valtio, joka tunnusti, että tämä terroristaite ei ole enää olemassa. Sen jälkeen he olivat maailman jäljit isojen taisteluun.

The US and the UK and others to some degree provided nominal support to the Syrian democratic forces to maintain that situation. Now fast forward to December 2024 and the now president al-Shara topples Assad and he takes control.

One of the key things that he's been trying to do is unify the country. Part of that unification process involves the areas that have been controlled by the Syrian Democratic Forces, predominantly Kurdish group, coming under his control.

The fighting between the Syrian army and the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces in Aleppo has killed six people and injured 19 others. Up until recently the Kurdish-led SDF controlled about a quarter of the country in the northeast. But over the last week that has shrunk considerably as government forces have advanced. The Syrian government and Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces say they've agreed to a comprehensive ceasefire deal.

Ja mitä on tapahtunut viimeisenä viikolla, on se, että amerikkalainen hallitus, joka pitäsi syrjinnän demokraattisia vahvoja, kuitenkin tuli ylös ja sanoi, että tämä sopimus on nyt loppunut. Ja kaikkein tärkein asia syrjinnän tulevaisuudessa on yhdistetty syrjintä. Ja he ovat nyt erittäin muuttaneet fokusi suhteen Damascusiin. Ja se on mielenkiintoista, koska jos katsot esim. Lindsey Grahama... Suomalaisen republikaanisen senaattorin.

What we've got here is we've got a question of honor and loyalty, right? And America is a society that recognizes the value of military might and so on and so forth. And I think there's a sense that the Kurds fought for us and we shouldn't abandon them amongst some Republican lawmakers and so on and so forth. What does this actually mean for the security and the governance of the camps on the grounds? And does it mean that ISIS has the potential to restrengthen?

In terms of the security situation around ISIS, since the fall of President Assad in December of 2024, ISIS was able to move around the country much more freely. Before that, they'd very much been confined to certain areas. The American special forces would go in on these targeted missions or drop bombs. But after the fall, they started moving about the country. And since then, there have been attacks. And from these prisons that we're talking about, there have also been escapes.

Yksi asia, jota Amerikassa on tehty hyvin viimeisenä, on se, että on tehty poliisi menemään Syyliin ja yrittäen poistaa joitain näitä jäseniä tiettyihin asioihin ja saada heitä itse asiassa rahalliseen paikkaan Irakissa, koska he tuntevat, että muuttaminen heitä Irakissa on turvallisempaa kuin jätettävä heitä Syyliin.

Josh, I feel like I now have a clear sense of the dynamic in the camps and the security situation. But I want us to zoom out a bit to the state of ISIS more broadly outside the camps. The United States has maintained a minimal troop presence on the ground in Syria. And in December, there was news of an ambush on U.S. forces. What exactly happened?

Ja Donald Trump had an extraordinarily strong response to that. We hit the ISIS thugs in Syria who were trying to regroup after their decimation by the Trump administration five years ago. We hit them hard.

I ordered a massive strike on the terrorists that killed our three great patriots last week. In that response that the Trump administration had to the ambush in December, we have seen a number of strikes. I'm just going to pull this up here, but it seems like whenever the strikes are conducted, we'll get a notification from U.S. Central Command. This one says that more than 100 ISIS infrastructure targets were hit.

And that has me wondering, well, what exactly is an ISIS infrastructure target? Especially if there's no geographic site, what are they referring to?

Mitä he suosittelevat, kun sanotaan, että se on yleensä kivu tai kivu jossain metsässä, jossa voisi olla vahvistuskasheja tai ihmisiä, jotka pysyvät. Monet niistä tavoitteista ovat todennäköisiä, mutta myös nyt ja sitten, kun olin Syyassa, ihmiset joutuivat minulle, miten Amerikassa on tullut toinen kivu.

What the US did in those strikes is, you know, they essentially used a mallet to try to degrade this group. They did a very targeted strike campaign, but over a vast area. And within that you are hitting these sort of very small hidden sites in an attempt to degrade ISIS, as well as targeting their leadership as well.