Trooper Yuri Bukenik
Appearances
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So this is a group text or a group chat with you and eight of your high school friends about this investigation, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Proctor, you never thought when you were engaged with these other individuals that this particular set of chats would ever become public, did you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You recognize that this chat, this group chat, was taking place on January 29th at about 10.52 p.m., correct? Correct. And the person that I'll identify as 5051 indicates Chip, name of that BPD cop, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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First of all, you indicated on Monday that you're Chip. Is that right? Yes, sir. You responded at 10.53 p.m., John O'Keefe. Is that right? Yes, sir. So you were willing to tell just a few hours into an investigation of the death of an Austin police officer, you were willing to tell a bunch of high school buddies details about the investigation, including the name of the victim, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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16 is a few hours, correct? I'm not talking about days later.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Correct. You also informed these same folks, these same high school buddies that, quote, all the powers that be want answers ASAP, correct? Yes. You knew, Trooper Proctor, that there was brass that wanted this case wrapped up quickly and efficient. Isn't that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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They didn't just want answers. They wanted answers ASAP. What does ASAP mean?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Right. You were texting this to your high school friends, again, 16 hours into this investigation, right? Correct. You knew at that time, Trooper Proctor, that this was not going to implicate in any way, shape, form, or fashion another cop, correct? Correct. Correct. In this text exchange at 10.56 p.m., your buddy Bird writes, I'm sure the owners of the house will receive some shit. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Correct. How did you take that to mean? Did you take that to mean that he could get in trouble?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The owners of the house isn't going to get any shit for this, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Yeah, you interpreted it like he's not going to get in any trouble. He's not going to be a suspect, correct? Correct. And he's not going to be implicated in any way. Is that right? Correct. And your answer was one word, correct? Yes. What was that word? Nope. And then you followed that up with an explanation as to why you said no, didn't you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The question that preceded your answer of nope, the homeowners of Boston Cop 2 was the homeowner's going to get some shit for this, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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All right, let's take it in order. Question. The homeowner is going to get some shit for this. Answer. Nope. Next text. He's a Boston cop, too. That doesn't sound like an explanation for your nope.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And that's why he's not going to get any shit. Correct, Trooper Proctor?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The fact of the matter is you hadn't been to the crime scene by the time you wrote this text, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You had questioned a grand total of three percipient witnesses at this point, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And it's against that backdrop that you wrote, nope, the homeowner's not going to get any shit because he's a cop, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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At 1057, Bird goes on to write, he, the homeowner, must have been a puddle to accomplish that. And then he writes, who's the homeowner? Then he writes, I hope not, but I can see it. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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In other words, Bird wrote that the homeowner must have been so drunk, so wasted to have killed him, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And what Bird actually wrote was he must have been a puddle to accomplish that. Correct? That's what he wrote. And then you write back, quote, she waffled him. I looked at his body at the hospital. Right? Correct. You used the phrase waffled about a Boston police officer who had fallen in the snow and died in someone's yard. And you decided to use the word waffled him. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And then you responded, he was banged up. Is that right? Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Then a person with the phone number 0095 wrote, I thought he was drunk. Did he get beat up? You see that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And you wrote, nope. Is that right? Correct. Yet again, this is before 11 o'clock at night on January 29th, 2022, some 16 hours into your investigation. Is that right? Yes. So before you ever went to the crime scene, before you ever went into the house, only having interviewed three folks, you had this case nice and wrapped up, didn't you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Super Proctor, I didn't ask for information. I asked, did you in your mind have this case wrapped up? Was it cut and dry in your mind?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Bird then writes, so the owner of the house was a woman cop that beat him, question mark, right? Yes. And then you wrote, that's what I initially thought after talking to Canton paramedics. Is that right? Yes. And then you said, then I saw the guy, correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So what you meant by that, Trooper Proctor, was according to you, based on your initial conversations with the paramedics, the first responders, you were under the impression that this was a beating death. He'd been beaten to death, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Bird writes, something stinks, correct? Correct. And then Trooper Proctor, you responded, yeah, but there will be some serious charges brought on the girl. Isn't that right? That's right. So in that text exchange, you were saying, yeah, we're out to make it cut and dry, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You didn't write, yeah, we're going to follow the evidence wherever it takes us. You didn't, did you? No.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You didn't write, yeah, we're going to make sure that we investigate this thing fully and thoroughly before making any decisions? You didn't say that, did you? I did not. You wrote, yeah, but there will be some serious charges brought on the girl. Isn't that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And the reason you wrote that is because you knew, as the text above it says, this has to be cut and dry because it involves cops, right? Who did you mean by the girl, by the way?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Karen Reed? Yes, sir. So the way that you were going to make it cut and dry, pretty simple. Just pin it on the girl, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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But that wasn't the question that you were answering, was it? We're going to follow the evidence and make sure we do this thoroughly. The question you were answering was, I assume you guys, you, Trooper Proctor, and your team are going to, quote, make it cut and dry since it involves cops, meaning Brian Albert, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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We'll see. Let's keep reading, shall we? A little further down says, gotta be, I could only imagine what internal affairs at BPD are trying to get out there. Correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Meaning this person, 5051, was opining, at least in your mind, you interpreted that as being Boston police are going to have a lot to answer for, given the fact that another Boston police officer was found dead on that officer's lawn. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Then 5051 changes gears and he writes, she hot at least. Correct? Yes. And what was your response to that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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From all accounts, he didn't do a thing wrong. She's a whack job cunt. That's what you wrote, correct? Correct. 16 hours into this investigation.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Into your objective and unbiased, thorough investigation. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Did you or did you not have all accounts in your investigation?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The accounts you had, Trooper Proctor, were from two people named McCabe and one named Albert, who happened to be the homeowner and a Boston cop. Those are the accounts from Percipient Witnesses that you had, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And from all accounts, he didn't do a thing wrong. That was your decision 16 hours into the investigation, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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What else did you say in response to she hot at least question mark?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Weird Fall River accent, though. You're talking about the way she talks?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And no ass. Now you're talking about her body, correct? Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Then Bird chimes in with a little comedy. Ah, not newsworthy then, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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In other words, well, she doesn't have an ass. Nothing to see here, correct? And then 5051 says, oh, she's skating, right? Correct. And what did you write after that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Zero chance she skates. She's fucked, right? Correct. You decided on the 29th of January, 17 hours into this investigation, you decided individually, Trooper Proctor, you're not only going to put it on the girl, you decided you're going to make sure this is cut and dried. And the way you're going to do it is to make sure that she's fucked. That's what you were saying.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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What you meant by that comment, Trooper Proctor, was you were going to make sure because 50-51 had said she's going to skate. She's skating. When you said zero chance she skates, she's fucked. What you meant was I am going to make sure Ms. Reed doesn't skate. She's fucked. That's what you meant. And then Bird decides to chime in. Good. No ass bitch. Right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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How did you respond to Bird saying, good, no-ass bitch?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Thought that was funny, did you, Trooper Proctor? Thought that was funny?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Well, I think we all know it was unprofessional. It was a lot of things. I'm asking you, did you think it was funny?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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On Monday, you indicated that your conduct in this case, and specifically your conduct as reflected in these messages, how did you put it? It did not affect the integrity of the investigation, of your investigation, correct? Correct. Do you know what the definition of integrity is?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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It means the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles, correct? Do you believe that integrity means being honest and having strong moral principles?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Do you stand by that testimony that you were showing strong moral principles in this investigation, sir?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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When you say they're juvenile and regrettable, it sounds like you're almost apologizing to the jury for your conduct. Is that what you're doing? Super Proctor, have you ever apologized to Ms. Reed?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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As a lead investigator in this case, you were tasked with the responsibility of making sure that the investigation remained free of any conflicts of interest. It's part of your job, correct? Correct. Throughout the pendency of this investigation in this case, you've denied having any conflict of interest in this case. Isn't that right? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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In fact, a couple of months ago in February of 2024, you testified in a different proceeding. Is that right? Yes. You testified under oath in that proceeding on February 1st that you did not know any members of the Albert family or McCabe family, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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That wasn't my question. Let's take them one at a time. Did you testify under oath, same oath you took here today, in a formal proceeding in February of 2024, that you did not know and did not have any relationship with members of the Albert and McCabe families?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You can't remember how you testified, whether or not you knew or had relationships with the Alberts in the case? As you sit here right now, you need to refresh your recollection. You can't remember what you said.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Would you refresh your recollection if you took a look at those grand jury minutes? Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You were asked the question, quote, did you communicate with first assistant DA Beeland that you did not know and had no relationship with the Albert and McCabe families? And you answered, quote, I, to the best of my recollection, the same conversation took place with everyone I talked to about this because it's the same answer. It's the facts that I shared with everyone.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Question, meaning you told First Assistant Phelan that you didn't know, didn't have a relationship with members of the Albert and McCabe families. Answer, correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Do you recall that? Yes. And that's your testimony that you, in fact, told members of the DA's office that you did not know and did not have a relationship with the Alberts or McCabes. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Well, the question wasn't, did you know most of the Alberts? The question was, did you have a relationship with, or did you know the Alberts? And your answer was no.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Meaning you told First Assistant Bieland that you didn't know, didn't have relationships with members of the Albert and McCabe families. Answer, correct. Was that ambiguous in your mind?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Well, that might have been a good time to pipe up and say, well, I know Chris and I know Julie and I know Colin. Correct. That might have been a good time to answer the question. I know these three individuals from the Albert family. Right. But your answer was one word. Correct. Right. Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You further testify that you never have gone to any supervisor at Massachusetts State Police to disclose even a potential conflict of interest in this case that you might have, correct? Correct. And you indicated the needs never come up. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You also told ADA Lally that you, quote, did not have relationships or know members of the Albert or McCabe families. Correct? Correct. And that's just not true, is it? You did know. You do know members of the Albert family. Isn't that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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But what about part of the question, did not have relationships or no members of the Albert or McCabe families? How about that part of the question?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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I see. So what you did, Trooper Proctor, is you dissected the sentence. And where relationships are concerned, you ignored that in terms of the Alberts because you don't have relationships. Where no is concerned, you linked that to the McCabes because you don't know the McCabes. That's what you did?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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How about if I just ask it this way? That was a lie, wasn't it?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You stand by that testimony? Yes. At the time that you testified that you didn't know the Alberts or any members of the Albert family?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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My question is, you keep going back to relationships. I'm asking you, did you testify that you didn't know them?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So if you were to say, I don't know any members of the Albert family, that would have been a lie, correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You've already testified that there were several hundred Ring videos from One Meadows facing the driveway and the front door camera, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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As the case officer, you obtained and controlled those Ring videos from One Meadows from the moment that they came into Massachusetts State Police custody until they were handed over to the Commonwealth, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You drafted the search warrant for the Ring video access records, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You obtained the warrant returns once those search warrants were executed, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You took possession of Mr. O'Keefe's cell phone physically, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And you had access to Mr. O'Keefe's ring account in that cell phone. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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you indicated that you reviewed several of the videos on his Ring app on his cell phone. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So you obviously had not only possession of the cell phone, you had possession of his login account information to get into the app on his cell phone. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Which means somewhere or another, you could get access to the Ring videos.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And watch those Ring videos on his app on the phone. Yes. Which means you had full access to the app, keep videos, you could save for later, you could delete videos, you could do anything you wanted to within that app, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Super Proctor, did you delete any of the Ring videos ever from John O'Keefe's phone?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Did you delete a video of Miss Reed arriving to One Meadows at approximately 1241 a.m. on January 29th, 2022? Yes.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You will agree, Trooper Proctor, that the video of Ms. Reed returning home from 34 Fairview at approximately 12.41 a.m. is not there?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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As the case officer, you're aware that Trooper DeChico also reviewed some or all of those videos, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And then he provided those notes to you so that you could then memorialize those notes and your notes in a broader report that you then drafted in November of 2022, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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But you certainly did have, as you just indicated, you did accumulate his notes and review his notes as well as your own notes, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Did you actually, at any point before writing your report, did you review his notes?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Your report is dated June 1st, 2022, correct? Correct. And reflected in this report are the bullet points of the times that you found of some note in your review of all of the ring footage from One Meadows, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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In your report, there is no mention of the footage showing Karen Reeve arriving home at 1241 a.m., correct? Correct. And that's notwithstanding the fact that in Trooper DiCicco's handwritten notes, he makes note of an event at 1241 a.m., Indicating, I think she arrived home, correct? Correct.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So sometime between when Trooper DeChico wrote his notes and when you wrote your report, that video footage vanished.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Well, you're aware that the video footage from 1241 AM is gone, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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So at some point, while this footage was in Massachusetts State Police custody and being reviewed by Trooper DiCicco, that video existed, didn't it?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The fact is, notwithstanding Trooper DiCicco's handwritten notes, there's no video of 1241 in January 29th, is there?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Trooper Proctor, would you agree that from the very beginning of your investigation, you treated Karen Reed very differently than you treated the Alberts and the McCabe's in this case?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Did you consider her to be, for want of a better phrase, an outsider?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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At some point, your view of this case caused you to turn what could be described as a bias into an out-and-out hatred. Would you agree with that? Did you develop some sort of hatred for Ms. Reed?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Matter of fact, you did express your feelings about Ms. Reed in yet another text message that we haven't done over here today. Is that right? On February 4th, 2022? You responded to a text message from your sister, correct? And your response was, hopefully, she kills herself, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You literally said that you hoped that Karen Reid, the subject of your investigation, the woman sitting to my left, about seven feet from me, that she would just die. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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The figure of speech is you wanted her to kill herself.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Trooper Proctor, Karen Reid, in your investigation, had quickly become a very serious problem for you, hadn't she? Did you believe that Karen Reid was a problem or an issue for your investigation?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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In your words, quote, all the powers that be want answers ASAP. That's what you texted on January 29th, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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That put a lot of pressure on you, didn't it, Trooper Proctor?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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This case involves a Boston cop whose family you were actually connected to, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Loose enough to leave his badge and his gun in your cruiser after a night of drinking, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You agreed in your group chat you needed to, quote, make this cut and dry because another cop was involved. Those are your words, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Your friends wrote this whole thing in their words, stinks, correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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You believed, Trooper Proctor, that your life would be much easier if Karen Reed was just dead, didn't you?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Let's talk about your figures of speech. During the course of your investigation, your figures of speech include the following. She's a bitch. Is that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Ass leaker. That was the word you used, a figure of speech, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Would you agree, Trooper Proctor, that you have dehumanized Karen Reed during the course of your investigation with comments and words like this? Would you agree with that?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And you admitted in your own words that the cop homeowner wasn't going to, quote, catch any shit, right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Because you were out to, quote, make this cut and dry. Isn't that right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Because you were going to make sure that the case was cut and dry. Those were your words, right? Yes. And Trooper Proctor, it would be far easier, far easier for you to pin it on the girl who's just a whack job cunt, in your words, who you hope just kills herself. Right?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Quote, she waffled him. I looked at his body at the hospital. You used the phrase waffled about a Boston police officer who had fallen in the snow and died in someone's yard. And you decided to use the word waffled him. Correct?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Are you saying that the principles of physics are incapable of determining with the proper calculations how far John O'Keefe's body would have moved given the collision at issue?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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Is it your opinion, based on a reasonable degree of scientific certainty, that those injuries are consistent with an animal attack as opposed to a motor vehicular pedestrian incident?
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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What evidence do they actually have to prove that that SUV ever hit John? The answer is none. They don't have any. There's no evidence whatsoever that Karen Reid's vehicle ever struck John O'Keefe. In fact, every single piece of material evidence in this case unequivocally proves the opposite.
KAREN: THE RETRIAL
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And to Proctor, it would be far easier to pin it on the girl who's just a whack-job cunt who you hope just kills herself. Shame on you, sir.