Turner Caldwell

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1,178 appearances 3 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2025 last heard 5 Aug

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And the downside of each individual thousand things is that the plant goes down, which is a multimillion dollar event.
And so you're really not incentivized to change things.
Like even small changes could result in multimillion dollars of loss.
And you need to kind of like approach it of like, how do I do the thousand things all at once so that I'm not stacking incremental returns on innovation with the same risk every single time?
And that's where kind of like spot technical solutions are challenging to sell into the mining industry.
And they'll do pilots.
They'll definitely do a pilot.
Like there's no skin off their back to do kind of like a pilot.
But you'll end up doing a lot of pilots.
And because they don't build enough plants kind of sequentially, like they'll build one big mine every five years, if that.
And there just aren't a lot of opportunities to get into a commercial scale application.
And if you don't time it perfectly where like your pilot plant was five years before the commercial scale plant was planned for, like you're not going to be in that one.
So you'll be in the next one, which is five years later.
And so just like the pace at which the industry moves in terms of like deploying commercial scale infrastructure means that there just isn't a lot of opportunity to get new tech into commercial scale applications.
And so there's a lot of folks that are doing like SaaS projects
which is kind of the lowest cost way to get into, to like generate uplift in a mining project or a minerals refinery.
And the like barrier there is ultimately how do you get the operators to trust you
Um, the recommendations from the, like this, this SaaS tool from this small company that is trying to kind of tell you how to run a plant.
Um, and you know, the culture is typically like, don't touch my things, don't touch my cash register.
And like, what do you, what do you all know about running a mine?
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