Ty

Did you struggle with any mental health stuff after parenting?

But does Callie and her birthday, do they have a relationship at all?

Oh, okay.

Like, oh, I just want it to be me and you.

knows what she wants which is which is good I was gonna say that's a good that's a good thing you know yeah yeah very good yeah yeah and so uh because I wanted you say because I know you said like how if your mom was listening she would say like duh Ashley you did struggle like with your mental health and stuff um would you say that was like after your relinquishment because I remember for me it was like it was super hard I felt like I didn't want to like I didn't want to go hang out with friends people think like just go out just be like a normal teenager again and

And it's like I couldn't remember Tyler being like, we need to go hang out with friends and me feeling so depressed.

And I was like, no, I should not be happy.

I should not be going to hang out with my friends.

Like I felt like it took a longer time to like go back into my life.

And then I felt like when I did start hanging out with friends and like trying to be a teenager and do all the things, then I felt like everybody was like super immature and

I don't know if you felt like that, but I just felt like nobody was just like I felt like I was way more mature than everybody around me.

Right.

This is really how I'm feeling, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I always try to say like, I feel like nobody knows how to support birth moms unless they've done it and went through it themselves.

You know, like even same thing with like counselors.

It's hard for me to connect with certain counselors based on like adoption and stuff unless you're like an adoptee or a birth mom or you've been a part of the adoption system itself because it's like you don't really get it.

And I think that's what's hard.

Like, I feel like there needs to be more like adoption specific therapists, not related to agencies or anything, because it is hard to feel.