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And he said, no, I don't think we need them.

I don't think we like them.

And that puts him at odds with leading Republican figures, including his vice president, who seemed more open to including people who spread hateful views within the party.

It was a moment where he really came out quite strongly against people who spread anti-Semitism when this debate is coursing through his movement and among his supporters.

Quick interjection.

What did he say?

He said he had not, but he probably should.

What was remarkable to me as we were in there for quite some time was just watching how the Oval Office operated and the bubble around the president to support all of his needs, whether that's him pressing the red button on his desk to get a Diet Coke or the aide that runs out multiple times of the Oval Office to pick up different pieces of paper that he has requested she print out as evidence for whatever point he's making.

or just the people walking in and out of the Oval Office with notes, whether that's a foreign leader's on the call or an aide is waiting outside, to him combining meetings.

There were documents he had to sign, and he just had that person come in with the paperwork as we were sitting there for the interview.

His phone, his personal cell phone, was ringing multiple times.

He took one call from the Fox News anchor, Brett Baer.

But it was really just quite amazing to see how...

chaotic, frankly, the Oval Office can be.

And we've reported on how this unfolds.

But I think sitting in the Oval Office for an extended period of time and watching it up close really gives you the sense of how Trump makes decisions, how he thinks, and how his world operates.

I think there's a good case to make, yes, because voters actually weighed in on how he was doing.

And I think we've seen a lot of polling, but it's different when people actually go to the ballot box and register their feelings and their feelings were overwhelmingly opposed to the broader Republican Party at this point.

Yeah.

I mean, I think one of the things that Democrats are excited about is that they were able to win over these voters that were a long part of their base and had been slipping away.