Valentino Stoll

I was hopeful with Travel Ruby or something like that that we'd see maybe something a little more progress, but I guess it's hard to sell that, right? If your end users are all distributed, how do you deliver the best thing, right?

I was hopeful with Travel Ruby or something like that that we'd see maybe something a little more progress, but I guess it's hard to sell that, right? If your end users are all distributed, how do you deliver the best thing, right?

That does bring me to another announcement with the Turbo, what is it?

That does bring me to another announcement with the Turbo, what is it?

Hotwire Native? Yeah. Yeah, because we did, we had, I'm blanking on his name now.

Hotwire Native? Yeah. Yeah, because we did, we had, I'm blanking on his name now.

Yeah, Joe, we had Joe on before a few times, I think. Oh, okay. He was talking about Turbo Native and the progress that he was making there and apparently has been collaborating, right, with 37signals. Yeah. Which is really exciting because I know the last time I was messing around with that, it's, like, pretty decent.

Yeah, Joe, we had Joe on before a few times, I think. Oh, okay. He was talking about Turbo Native and the progress that he was making there and apparently has been collaborating, right, with 37signals. Yeah. Which is really exciting because I know the last time I was messing around with that, it's, like, pretty decent.

I mean, they're still, like, still got to write some Objective-C or not Objective-C, but, like, Swift and Android. Like, a small amount of code now.

I mean, they're still, like, still got to write some Objective-C or not Objective-C, but, like, Swift and Android. Like, a small amount of code now.

yeah and it it's it's gonna be hard to stay away from it with all this apple intelligence stuff uh now even increasing the hype uh and i imagine you know there's a google version of that out there too uh you know drawing more and more people to their mobile devices yeah quite possibly yeah but i don't know i think

yeah and it it's it's gonna be hard to stay away from it with all this apple intelligence stuff uh now even increasing the hype uh and i imagine you know there's a google version of that out there too uh you know drawing more and more people to their mobile devices yeah quite possibly yeah but i don't know i think

Why?

Why?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I will say, like, just taking a step back to the conference again, Rails world. I mean, it is packed. You see the audience in a lot of these photos. And it's kind of exciting to see, you know, people all over the world coming together, making this stuff happen and shipping stuff. It's, you know... There's no way Rails can be dead with that crowd.

I will say, like, just taking a step back to the conference again, Rails world. I mean, it is packed. You see the audience in a lot of these photos. And it's kind of exciting to see, you know, people all over the world coming together, making this stuff happen and shipping stuff. It's, you know... There's no way Rails can be dead with that crowd.

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to, you know, it's hard to sell somebody focused on front end, like a framework that they don't understand, uh, And it's, you know, likewise the same way, right? Like I know a lot of front-end people that are like, you know, very happy with, you know, Next.js or something like that. And they're very efficient in it and it makes them productive.

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to, you know, it's hard to sell somebody focused on front end, like a framework that they don't understand, uh, And it's, you know, likewise the same way, right? Like I know a lot of front-end people that are like, you know, very happy with, you know, Next.js or something like that. And they're very efficient in it and it makes them productive.