Vanessa Grigoriadis

It was also Brian Albert's son's birthday and he had a bunch of friends over.

it's not unlikely that they would have kept her away from the people, right?

So John goes into the garage, quick altercation happens, he falls, he's injured, he's immediately incapacitated.

And during that altercation, Chloe jumps up and bites him on the forearm, which is exactly, if you've ever seen those police dog training videos, exactly what those dogs do.

They bite you right here and they grip.

First of all, I don't think they planned to kill John O'Keefe.

I don't think that was ever on the table.

That's why I assert this is something likely very dumb.

So the real dumb thing that happened was that Karen and John were kind of unhappy.

She was becoming increasingly unhappy with him.

And she does a thing that sometimes people do when they're unhappy in their relationships, which is to seek validation from other people.

One of the people that she did that with, as far as we know, the only person she did that with was Brian Higgins, the DEA agent Brian Higgins, who's friends with John O'Keefe and would come over to John O'Keefe's house to watch football games and so forth.

She starts flirting with him by text.

They have this lengthy, extremely embarrassing text back and forth relationship over a few period of days.

She kisses him outside of John O'Keefe's house at one point.

At one point they get together and then she completely ghosts him.

He starts writing her text.

She's just not replying, not replying, not replying, not replying.

So the day before John O'Keefe died,

Brian Albert and Brian Higgins, they were on a trip to New York for an officer's funeral in New York.