Vanessa Grigoriadis

And the select board is like the board of five people that decide all this stuff for the town.

So he actually is an elected official in town.

Brian Albert is this kind of scary, big, beefy, former Marine cop.

And Jen McCabe is like the queen of the town sports moms.

And what about Karen?

What's she an archetype of to you?

Karen's an outsider.

So Karen actually lived in a different community and she knew John from when she was in her early 20s.

They had dated briefly.

And then when the pandemic started, she saw him on Facebook and they connected again and they started dating again.

Karen was definitely a bit of an outsider for this group in terms of social status, in terms of professional status.

She was a financial analyst at Fidelity.

She was also a professor and very much steeped in the white collar world.

Yes.

We heard it characterized this way in court.

He sort of has this reputation as like a stand up guy.

Although I think through this case, some things have been revealed about Karen and John's relationship that point to it not being a great relationship.

I've sort of seen some of their communications with each other via text, and there was tension there.

John didn't like that Karen was taking his niece and nephew to Dunkin' Donuts.

You know, she was really trying to be the soft one in their lives, and he didn't always like that.