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Today we are doing a style guide video for Carolyn Bessette Kennedy.

minimalism so if you picture 1980s and 1990s wedding dresses they were very poofy and marshmallow like and then at Carolyn the pictures of her wedding dress got released and she was just wearing a very simple slip gown and it just changed the wedding industry people started really moving toward pared back minimalistic styles

That's it for our conversation with Angelina Chapin.

But before we go, we wanted to play a little bit of an interview from Vanessa's other podcast that we thought you might like, especially if stories like these about mother-daughter dynamics are something that interests you.

The podcast is called So Your Parents Are Old, and it's all about how our relationships with our parents change, especially as they get older and start to need care.

Vanessa interviewed Alison Alford.

She's a professor at Baylor University and the author of a new book, Good Daughtering, the work you've always done, the credit you've never gotten, and how to finally feel like enough.

Allison has spent years researching the concept of daughtering, which she explains is all this invisible care work that adult daughters do.

The story of Selena and her mother, Mandy Teefee, made us think about Allison's conversation, which put a lot of these complicated dynamics into perspective.

And she also talks about when daughters choose not to do care work, when they choose to step back and protect themselves, which is...