Victor Davis Hanson

So when you see Marco Rubio or a respected and bright writer like Walter Kern, that has influence.

But it's not going to go over to the other side, the needle, to belief until...

People are going to have to present not just film that can be doctored or testimonial, but actual hard data.

This is an alien corpse.

He's here.

Look at it biologically.

Or this is an alien ship, and these are the materials in it, and show the public.

And that hasn't happened.

And then when you ask that data, everybody says, well, you can't do that.

It's top secret.

It's classified.

Well, why is it classified?

I don't believe that.

I don't believe that.

The president can get anything he wants if he wants it.

And I just... It's...

And I believe a lot of conspiracies.

I was told right during COVID, I think it was in February, we had a brilliant neurobiologist, Stephen Quay, and I had him on my podcast.

And he said, when everybody said, it's a pangolin, it's a bat, he said, no, he had looked at the DNA.

He was a very accomplished biologist.