Victor Davis Hanson

They said, the more sunburned you were, the better the acne would go away.

And we know about the Tuskegee syphilis experiment where African-American men were given syphilis without their knowledge.

So I think it's always wise to be skeptical of authority, of the establishment, of people in government where they're not accountable, of people who have prestigious names or institutions that we all think we don't dare say anything about, Harvard, Yale, Stanford.

And what I've seen of all these institutions, they're just people and they're no better or no worse than anybody else.

And often they're capable, if you give them an exemption that you can't criticize them or investigate, then they take the advantage of that.

So

I'm open to everything, just what you said.

I have no doubt that they did that with twins.

And I know from my own family here on a farm for six generations, and we went through the whole from 1870 when they started until now, every iteration of chemicals.

My grandfather would say, use nicotine powder.

It won't hurt you at all to kill leafhoppers.

Oh, boy.

And then my mother said, well, they said arsenic is absolutely perfect as a herbicide.

We all use arsenic.

And DDT was a big thing when I was a kid.

You know, it doesn't make you sick like anything else.

And we had DD powder everywhere as a pesticide.

And then parathion was absolutely...

When I was growing up, parathion was deadly, but people used it all the time, and it was Saigon B. It was basically a derivative of what German chemical companies had used during the Holocaust.

Yes, and we went very organic very early, like 1980 at farmer's markets, and people would come over and say, you're crazy, there's no –