Victor Vescovo

Obviously.

Yeah.

What were you doing on, so what did you, where did you go first?

I went to Stanford University as an undergraduate, go Cardinal.

I started as an engineer and I was an okay engineer, but I wasn't great.

So I started experimenting around and then I found out I really loved and was better at economics and political science.

And then from there, I went into the business world for a year or so, and then I got a scholarship to MIT.

And there I was in an unusual program.

It was called the Defense and Arms Control Program, where we actually studied at a mathematical level, human conflict, nuclear strategy, conventional warfare, very academic, modeling and simulation of warfare.

kind of appeal to my academic nature.

But I left the PhD program.

I just took a master's there.

And then from there, I went to Wall Street, which sounds like a strange progression, but it's still just numbers.

You're just using them in a different way.

And so I went hardcore into finance for two years.

I worked for about over a year in Saudi Arabia as a civilian working for the Saudi government on financial analysis.

I had to learn Arabic when I was there.

And then when I was done with that assignment, I was fortunate to get admitted into Harvard Business School.

And I went there for two years.

And in the first year at Harvard Business School, I got a strange call from our friends, the U.S.