Victor Vescovo

You can't have everyone like that.

And it is dangerous, and some of us don't come back.

But, yeah, you need that element in society to keep pushing you forward.

And that's why I do venture capital now.

It's an exploration in a different way.

We're deploying capital, our own know-how, to try and push the boundaries even further.

You've had a guest on this show, Matt Gilek of Astroforge.

I've invested in his company.

He and I are good friends.

I've invested in Colossal Biosciences, which is trying to de-extinct dinosaurs and other animals.

It's part of overall exploration, not just physical exploration like I've done, but also financial, economic, and societal.

Yeah, it's the fun place to be.

Oh, absolutely.

There's a group in New York called the Explorers Club that was established around the turn of the century.

And that's where all these Island of Misfit Toys people collaborate and get together and talk about what they're working on, whether it's to explore the rainforests or it's to go to the bottom of caves or it's to trek across Antarctica.

And we get together and share our experiences and enjoy each other's company because there aren't many people like us, it seems.

Well, many people focus, of course, on what we call the kind of marquee element of that, which is de-extincting the woolly mammoth.

We're not going to de-extinct dinosaurs.

The DNA is too fractured.

It's too old.