Viktor Orban
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4 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard 13 Apr
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I'm sure that from the Emirates they are doing their businesses as well, and the Saudis and others. So they would not like to be isolated. They would be part of the world economy based on the Russian interest, not on the Washington consensus principles or something like that, you know? But it's their country. Whether we like it or not, whether we agree or not, it's their country.
They make their choice. If it's their decision, we have to adjust ourselves, not to force them to change their mind. It's not our job. At least this is the Hungarian approach. Probably not the American, but definitely the Central European. They are too close. Don't forget they're too close.
First of all, even if I have many critical remarks, it does not matter if you take the proper vantage point to see what has happened in Ukraine in the last years. They decided to go into a war. to defend their own territory, their own right to join NATO and to be part of the Western architecture, security and economic architecture. That was their decision. And they fight for it.
And they lost hundreds of thousands of lives. And they fight heroically. So I'm very cautious to make any critical remarks on the president or Ukraine. Because what they have done is really something heroic and historical. To resist to that power like Russia for that long time, you know. So it's...
Whatever political mistakes they have done, the fact itself, the fight and sacrifice is something we have to say that's really heroic. So that's number one. Number two, I think it was a misunderstanding on their behalf the real intention of the West. And they thought that the West will support them forever. And therefore, their behavior was not exactly as it would be seen as normal.
Because if you are in trouble, you need help, you are going to somewhere to ask, it's not the right tone as they communicate with us. Anyway, so. But they thought that they can do so. Because the West will remain behind them forever. If you understand well the history of the Western politics, this is a misconception, may I say. That's not what the West did in the last several years. No, no.
So I was sure that sooner or later they will be let alone and say, guys, war is over, financial support is over, military support is over, let's make a deal. Even if you have huge losses, this is the right moment. We would not like to risk World War III. We would not like to risk a direct conflict with Russia on military fields.
So my heart is with the Ukrainians, but they are in a big, big, big trouble because of the position they have now on this whole issue.
So, just again, very cautiously. And now everybody thinks that we have a problem called Russia, which is true. But then soon we will have another problem called Ukraine. Yes.
You live in the United States, and it's probably difficult to imagine the strength of liberal dictatorship of public life we are living under in Europe. So, you know, the pressure from the liberal public opinion is so strong on the leaders that in the last three years, all the European leaders follow the same track.
So try to imagine that a big European nation leader says that we have to support Ukraine, whatever does it take. We have to do, this is a moral-based position. We can't change it. and they should join NATO, and we are arguing in favor of that.
And then, just to say next weekend, guys, there are some changes in the world, so our principally based position is over, and now, you know, turn like that. So to make that change with the present leadership, it's difficult to imagine. I would not like to make nasty jokes, but now, because of the American decision, it's really time for sober up, But they are in the phase of re-drinking.
So it takes time to change the direction of the sheep. Just today they issued a paper, they issued a statement. The big European nation saying that they continue as they have done regardless of what the Americans have said. That's just this morning.
Yes, definitely. Even earlier. Really? Yeah, I think so. Serious guys. So strong men make peace. Weak men make war. That's so simple. Now we have strong leaders.
I think history, for all the criticism you've taken, will— Don't forget that I have another record I hold. It's more important. Longest-serving leader of opposition in Europe.
16 years just because I'm just because I'm accused not to be democratic you know don't forget that okay 19 years in government that's something but 16 years in opposition and to lead up that's even more so I had that record as well so I know the both side of democracy the sunny one and the raining one as well
So I never left politics, even I lost the election, so I'm a political animal who is running a democratic political architecture and machinery in my country.
When I was in opposition, I had more time to deal with football. Which is a real issue anyway.
We do run that. So I run that kind of opinion polls. So I have a view on all European countries. And I can say that the majority is moving to the peace position. And the pro-peace is bigger now. There's a majority of the pro-peace in the European public opinion in general.
There are some one or two countries which is exceptional, all the others belonging to the same track, more, more, more for peace. But there is another opinion, Paul, which is even more important. I would not like to divert this conversation, but we run every year and we ask the Europeans, what do you think about the life of your children?
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