Viktor Shvets

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I think comes in that I I I do think that the uh US side understands that you have to find a compromise.
And that compromise optically should look better for the United States.
It's like if you're singing of renegotiation of NAFTA back in 2017-2018, it hasn't actually changed a lot, but optically it was presented as a much better case.
for the United States going forward.
So you need to find that sort of a uh middle ground.
If you don't, if you actually do become aggressive, as it happened in nineteen thirties, yes, you could have retaliatory actions very quickly.
That's one of the things I keep highlighting that today
People are angry, people are polarized, but they're not yet mad enough to burn down the house.
Whereas in 1930s, they were really mad.
In other words, they were exacerbating primarily because the degree of suffering that actually people encountered in the 1930s was significantly worse than anything we're experiencing.
So people are not happy, but they don't want to burn down the house yet.
Maybe another war, another pandemic, and people will be really angry.
But that is not today.
So if people are not angry, they're pulling back the politicians within their countries.
Also, because people are not angry, geopolitical tensions are kept under some degree of control.
It's only when people magnify extremes.
that both geopolitical tensions and domestic tensions get out of control.
And I don't think we're at that point yet.
I said we might be at some point in time, but not today.
It depends on the extent.
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