Vince Chan
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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And yes, athletes deal with serious brain health issues due to the nature of the sport. But it's not just about them. Brain health is something that matters to everyone. So tell us more. What's your role in this event? What are you hoping to achieve, not just with this summit, but overall? What's the bigger mission behind your work in this space?
Great. Then I need to start planning for this year.
Absolutely. Next year, I'll knock it down. And thank you again, Nicole. Both you and Monty have been incredibly generous with your time, your energy, your honesty. It really means a lot. And I genuinely appreciate how open and thoughtful you've been throughout this entire conversation. And yes, we overran a bit, but it was totally worth it. This was such a fun and inspiring conversation.
And anything else you need, just ask how to reach me. And that brings us to the end of this series. Nicole's journey is proof that you don't need a perfect plan to make a real impact. You just need purpose. a little courage, and a lot of listen. Whether it's neuroscience, generosity, or hospitality, her work reminds us that generosity isn't fluff. It's the talk and the walk in life and career.
Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, we are diving into the No Strict Lines journey of Nicole Roberts.
Nicole is a doctor of public health, co-authoring a business book called Generosity Wins with a seasoned CEO, Monty Wood, who happens to be one of our guests on the show. Nicole once posed her PhD to start a human rights firm. Just to give you a sense of how things go, in this two-part series, we talk about what happens when you let purpose guide your work instead of a perfect plan.
We get into the science behind generosity, how real human stories shaped her book, and why the best leaders know when to ditch the rulebook. And she also helps run a brain summit every year during the Super Bowl. So this conversation goes places. Let's jump in. Hi, Nicole. Welcome to the show. Welcome to Chief Change Officer. I feel like I'm meeting an old friend.
You're a co-author in a book called Generosity Wins with Monty Wood. Monty and I had such a great conversation. I can't wait to get his co-author back to the show, which is you.
Yeah. Sure. Let's start with your journey, your history, and then we'll dive into different elements of your past and your present.
You studied public policy and later focused on public health. What originally drew you to public policy? Especially being in Washington, DC, a place so closely tied to politics and government. I know you also spend time in politics. So I'm curious, not just about the shift from point A to B to C, but also about the thinking behind those transitions.
You clearly have a very strong passion for driving public policy. But along the way, you realized that policy and politics are two different things. Very different. Did you find politics didn't sit well with you? What was it that didn't feel right?
You are clearly a thinker, but also very much a doer. You are someone who wants to drive real change and not just talk about it. You want to see it, build it, make it tangible. And that's something I really value. On this show, I've said it many times. I love working and talking with leaders who walk the walk, talk the talk. Because these days, talk is cheap.
Honestly, you can just drop a topic into AI tools, say, check GPT, get a polished script, memorize it, and suddenly you're saying the right things. but that's not leadership. Talk is getting commoditized. What really matters now is the walk. And with you, I see someone who does both. You've got the sharp thinking, the public policy background, the communication skills, but you also want to act.
You want to take all that insight and actually make something happen. But I imagine that's where the frustration comes in when politics and economics, invisible or visible hands, don't always align with action. They don't always support the walk, even if they are filled with talk. Is that how you experience it?
You mentioned about you, after those six years of doing your own practice in human rights, you went back to school, you finished your dissertation, but you changed the topic. I was wondering how those six years of experience, what happened there that helped you to change from one topic to another? And what was your topic? What was your final topic at the end?
These days, with AI and all the available data, you could possibly turn your lectures or content into something interactive. Maybe even develop your own AI agent.
Now going back to your book, generosity wins. What brought you in the very first place to write something like this and with Monty as your co-author?
That's it for today. We've traced Nicole's unexpected path from neuroscience to human rights to public health. But there's more. In part two, we get into the backstory of her book, Generosity Wins. While the main character is fictional, but the lessons are real. and how a rain summit landed in the middle of Super Bowl weekend. It's one of the most creative takes on leadership I've heard.
Don't miss it. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
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