Vivian Tu

There's maintenance fees.

We showed up back to our apartment after we went to Japan for the holidays last year.

Oh, whole HVAC system broken.

Good thing I didn't buy a Birkin in Japan because I'm going to spend 10 G's fixing this and I'm not even really going to enjoy it.

So like it's all about you.

I think you can be financially successful without owning a home.

However, I will very much admit for so many people, your mom included, owning a home is still a marker of the American dream.

And I think that is okay if you want it to be a part of your American dream.

But it doesn't have to be.

I will say, I think your mom might be under the spell of looking rich versus being rich.

right i can't comment on that legally you're like my mom will watch this and we will get into a fight mom she said it about you not us right um but i think it's all about like actually understanding what somebody values because in the case of so many immigrants i do find that they

their perceived wealth or like their understanding of wealth is only based on what they've seen in the movies and media whereas like the more truly truly wealthy people i've met and at this point i've met a number of billionaires i've met people who are very much high high hundreds of millions whatever they don't have these kinds of rules

the way that the average person, the average earner is like, this is what it means to be rich or wealthy.

They don't ascribe to any, this is what it means.

They're like, it means whatever the hell I want it to mean.

And so,

Two notes.

One, I think we can tell mom that just because you guys have not chosen to ascribe to some traditional markers of wealth building doesn't necessarily mean that you guys aren't doing well financially.

At your own risk.

Say that at your own risk.