Wade Foster

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · No Code Is Code: Zapier CEO Wade Foster on Headless Tools, Zapier MCP & Automation Bench · 17 Sep 2026 podcast

What happened here?

And then it can use its reasoning to f to fix the to fix the workflow or to fix that instance of the workflow.

And so you start to see the the agent almost take over the human role of building and maintaining it.

But what is actually running is still

a very deterministic workflow with AIs interwoven in like the places that is most necessary.

You're gonna have to wait for automation uh automation bench v2 for that.

Cause that is exactly the right question is to see hey, what happens when you give these models access to tools like Zapier?

How much higher can you get those efficiency and or how much higher can you get the the scores, but also how much can you pull to costs down?

How much faster can they go?

Because I think there's many dimensions when

You a model access to tools and capabilities and certain things like that, where it's gonna score better on these benchmarks at the end of the day.

And that's where I think the application layer has a lot of room to go run is to say what happens when you give access to the model to these extra things.

And it the model just gonna get better at performing against a a whole host of tasks.

I think there's two places that are interesting to talk about here.

First is when you think about building these workflows.

So the the thing you want to do there is you want to make sure that the model can properly identify when it needs to be using AI versus where it should just be writing code.

Uh and there's many such examples where you don't want the agent to actually orchestrate the task.

You just actually want it to run.

uh code than than that exists before.

And so a lot of that is when the the the agent is building its plan, you want to make sure that the plan encodes like, hey, this is like what the optimized workflow looks like.

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