Warren Smith

So I was very fortunate in that regard.

I really enjoy the people that I've been talking to and those shows like Crowder and stuff.

I had been watching their stuff for a long time.

So it is surreal to get to talk to them.

Yeah, honestly, I don't consider myself a debater.

A lot of the content is analyzing debates.

What interests me the most is the verbal chess game, the underlying dynamics, and often that becomes really apparent in debates, so it makes for good content.

When I first started doing this, I set up this space with another teacher, the music teacher, and he would sit off-camera

And we would just have conversations.

But conflict, the central law of narrative is that conflict drives story.

It's the same for engagement.

If there's no conflict, and conflict's not a bad thing.

We think of conflict as a negative.

But it just means the hero's journey, the hero has to have obstacles.

There needs to be some, otherwise there's no dynamic.

And so he would sit there and we would, and he had a very different point of view.

And I never thought of it as debates.

I still don't.

Like with Brian, I guess those are debates, but I've never thought of myself as a debater, a formal debater at all.

Like in general on that kind of show, you mean?