Will Cain
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first heard Feb 2025
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The other thing that I have a hard time with is Like, you want to say Luka, like, oh, you know, he's gotten all these stats, whatever. Like, there's so many other players that have huge numbers and could potentially obtain all these individual accolades. There's going to be a couple guys that make the Hall of Fame where I go, like, cool. The fact that you would have
this Finals run, just a couple seasons after the Western Conference Finals run, where that team wasn't that good, but they knocked off a really good Phoenix team that had just been to the Finals. You look at the Phoenix Suns during that regular season, and for whatever reason, they just took their souls. They take their souls in that Game 7. they had no chance against the Warriors.
I was going through the other offensive options there, and you're like, Luka dragged this team. And I do think there are conference finals appearances that can be fool's gold and maybe gets a team thinking about themselves in a way that they shouldn't be thinking about themselves.
Like, hey, you guys actually aren't that close, and you're not as good as you think you are, even though it says you're one of the Final Four teams still standing. But Luka getting to the finals, again, with a different roster, that quickly after getting to that Western Conference Finals appearance, like, tells me that you actually are close. And again, this isn't some empty stat guy.
This isn't just the most talented guy in the league that even with his deficiencies on defense, there wasn't enough happening negatively with his game that put a ceiling on who you were, where I think there's like five to seven other guys in the league where I'm like, oh, cool, he had 30 again. Yeah, I mean, let me know when they're out of the play-in.
And that's the part with Nico where it's very clear they were completely over him. And Windhorse, when he did his rant last year during the playoffs, it just, I mean, that was like vicious. He made a point today where he's like, you know what's crazy about that? He's like, nobody, or maybe I just saw the clip again. He's like, nobody from Dallas called me to defend their guy.
So I think what we're putting together here is that whatever the day-to-day Luka dynamic was, it was still so egregious to Nico and the rest of the group that they were willing to do something like this where on the outside you're going, you're complaining about this dude as the face of your franchise because you actually have team success.
Granted, not the title, but like real runs in recent seasons to point to is this guy is not somebody that gets in the way of a team success despite his flaws.
It was also a bad basketball matchup too, with like the way they would execute. So sorry, I interrupted, but keep going.
I have more work to do on the ratings thing because I think at times the way the ratings cycle gets treated is there'll be this downturn, right? And then that downturn is supposed to tell you the future, right? Yeah. Because remember when the NFL had had a dip. It was, well, it's concussions, right? Concussions were going to end football and no kids were ever going to play football again.
I think you and I were doing shows back then. And I was like, have any of you ever been to the South? Okay. Like, I think people are still going to play football. And then it was because it was Kaepernick, right? And then it was because it started to become like a bit of a political divide where if you were on the right,
you wanted to see the ratings go down a little bit because it kind of justified some of your political beliefs. And I just felt like that kind of falls to this like pulling of one stuff that'll happen. You're like, oh, my uncle doesn't watch it anymore.
So the first take. So like when we look at the ratings- part of it, I need, I need a little bit more data, but ultimately Because I am working on something on this. I'm not done yet. And it sounds like as an NBA guy, I could potentially be pushing it back against the idea that there's declining ratings. But here's what we do know.
Any declining rating or any declining rating forecast is irrelevant to the bigger business deals because you could have, as long as you have the live rights program and you have all of these games, you can say, all right, year to year, this is where we're at. Go back 10 years. This is where we're at. Why would you invest this? They just did the TV deal.
So to me, the TV deal and the ratings and the fact that it's been renewed, it tripled again. And it was beyond the projections because there was a long time we were like, why are some of these teams changing hands? Oh no, is the TV deal coming in way lower than they thought? Or some of these guys deciding to get out now because this is the decline.
The franchise acquisition bubble is finally starting to happen. And then none of that happened because the TV deal came in massive. So The reason I think it's important to go through all this stuff is, okay, fine.
Maybe it is a declining product in the way that we equate like what is successful and what is not successful based on, I think at times, some very outdated and domestic television numbers. But I can't sit here and say that anybody's wrong that's looking at it that way. The point is, is 350 million to Luke is irrelevant because the money's already backed in.
In four years from now of whatever that extension would have been, Luka's making less the same way the quarterback renewal cycle happens. We're like, I can't believe Jared Goff is making all this money. Look at that guaranteed money. And then three years later, you're like, that contract isn't even that bad anymore.
At 25, whatever your concerns are about Luka, there's no financial conditioning argument that I would hear. Here's the thing. then you could just trade them. So I don't know if you want to follow up on that because I still have a couple other questions.
Two things that we finish up here. What I cannot understand is if you were going to make him available, why you would make him available to only one team. And the answer to that, as I've talked to enough teams and I talked about in the open, is that Nico Harrison looked at Anthony Davis as like the guy he wanted more than everybody else.
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