Will Cain
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first heard Feb 2025
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Yeah, but again, it wasn't going to happen until I had gone through all the other stuff to go, okay, well, this isn't the way to do it. And then you want to blame everybody else and all these different things. But look, none of that. We've talked about that. We don't need to share that a ton with the audience because I think I've done a million versions of it already. But I'm really happy for you.
You deserve it. You're terrific on television. Like I said, I'm happy and I'm also biased because I got to know you personally. So thanks, man. Well, thank you, man.
Yeah, no, I have notes. I have notes. Good. They're not fully formed yet. Not 100% sure where I'm at yet. Thanks, Will. Thanks, Ryan. Another piece that I want to just spend a few minutes on, and we're going to bring Cerruti in here, but De'Aaron Fox on the move here. We had heard that's how trades are supposed to work. Rumblings that he's available. Sacramento exploring opportunities.
Other teams listed as potentially monitoring the situation. So De'Aaron Fox to San Antonio. Sacramento gets Zach Levine from Chicago. they get a first-round pick in 25, top 14 protected, a 25-second round pick, a 27 first-round pick from San Antonio, a 28-second round pick from Denver, and then they get their 28-second round pick back. So we're looking at a couple firsts in three seconds.
The Bulls moving Levine out end up with Zach Collins, Trey Jones, Kevin Herter, Sad day, sad day for us on the pod and a 25 first round pick, which is their own pick back this year. That remember was out at San Antonio. It was top 10 protected. So they get control of their own pick back.
So, um, you know, Sacramento, once Fox was going to do the extension, they were stuck and they want to get in front of this now. It would be great if the player wasn't Zach Levine that they were getting back. Some of you are going to think I'm nuts. Some of you are going to see the scoring, the first step, which is incredible, the three-point shooting, how steady he's been.
He's been healthy this year, and you like him. That's fine. I don't. I think he's a losing player, and I'm not going to move off of that. I think there's tons of evidence in my favor, but he's probably going to score like 48 one night, and then people are going to tell me that he's awesome. I think Sacramento was stuck, but
the saddest thing I think out of all of this is just Sacramento's window of, of like, look at what Sacramento's doing. Like they're doing a good job, but putting together a really nice starting five. And then maybe a couple of years ago, when you look at a really high seating in the West, it's like, well, they were the healthiest unit. Their top five played this percentage of possible minutes.
Like it's off the charts, incredible health luck. Um, but good for them, you know? And now, uh, It just feels like they're moving further and further away from all that stuff. I don't have a problem with the DeRozan thing at all.
I've said numerous times, if you want to close a game with Harrison Barnes or DeMar DeRozan, although I really do like some of the Harrison Barnes stuff, believe it or not, with San Antonio. Do you want to close with DeRozan with the four other guys, with Sabonis, with Keegan, with Monk, and with Fox? Or do you want to close with Barnes? Well, no. It makes sense.
It makes sense to have DeRozan in there. Maybe DeRozan, despite getting up there in age, a bit of an insurance against something like this. Once they could kind of read the tea leaves on the future with the Aaron Fox. So San Antonio gets somebody real. Uh, they also have to move castle, which I don't think he was even, I don't even think there was any way any of that was even going to happen.
Even if a lot of us are probably overrating castle, uh, today, but that's what we do with guys who are 40 plus games into their rookie season or NBA career. In this case, same thing, redundant, but, didn't profile as like this massive offensive guy.
And I think from what my expectations were from him, from what I see, saw offensively of him at Yukon to where he's at now, like, I think it's, it's really nice. And it's not a guy that you want to be in business or trading on top of being in the rookie contract, everything else. So I just liked Aaron Fox. And sometimes I just want to be allowed to say, I like a player.
So yeah, he's not a bunch of other guys. And yeah, he's not perfect. And two years ago was filthy how nice he was. And there's some numbers that you could go through and be like, well, is he ever going to be that guy again?
My guess would be maybe not the counting stats, but the efficiency and the fact that you have some defensive options, including the best defensive option in the NBA and Wemba Nyama behind him. So I think it does a lot of things with San Antonio where even though Chris Paul's been so good at dictating a lot of the stuff they can do, I mean, there's only so much tread in the tire there.
He can be limited at times offensively. So now you're adding in somebody who De'Aaron Fox, like when he's going, he's just really, really tough to deal with. And you have... financial commitment coming up here, but waiting around for perfect, waiting around for the person that's better than De'Aaron Fox, hoping that some guy in his 30s is going to want to play in San Antonio with Wemba Nyama.
Does that even make sense for them? So I like the trade. Bulls fans, though, probably looking at this collective group and saying, now after trading DeRozan, Caruso, and Levine, that's zero first round picks coming back. Technically, they do get control of their own back, but it's not like adding an extra first. So I like the trade for San Antonio. I understand it for Sacramento.
They're picking a guy that I don't like, and then they're Chicago. And all you really need to understand here, if that's what Chicago got back, that's how bad the market was for Levine. So I think the market backs my feelings about the player. I want to bring in Cerruti here really quick.
because it's one final exercise in this Luca thing, which I could probably do a Wednesday pod on it too, but we will not do that. We'll be back to football Superbowl week. Did not expect to do a Monday NBA podcast, by the way, the week leading up to it. So as I've said, and it feels like it's been backed up, it's just,
Nico Harrison wanted Anthony Davis so badly, he didn't even want to know who else was available. So if we did the just hypothetical here, like where do we draw the line? Like are there no's? Are there no's where Nico calls the other team and offers Luca for that other team's best guy? How many teams are actually saying no?
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