William Hahn

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749 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2025 last heard Apr 2025

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matter, right?
That quantum information theory would suggest that matter itself is an information-like process.
and that would we get down, you know, below the atoms, there might be software again.
And
It's sort of this interesting loop where we have information at the bottom, which somehow instantiates the atomic reality.
And then on that we build computers out of the atoms, and then we get software again, which sort of complete the circle.
So both in our mind and in the universe, it might be sort of these virtual turtles, right?
Which I think is a is an amazing reference.
We're in the the MIT Media Lab where Seymour Packers.
I think in in
In the case of humans, there's there's there's gonna be something like a bottom in some sense, right?
We see that with cells and and things.
Um
But it's not clear where that happens.
You know, I think there's all this great work that you've been following it with Michael Levin, looking at at the cell and the electrical activity and that there's a lot more interesting there that that classical biology kind of just glazed over.
And now we need to go back and realize, no, there's there's really interesting software at that layer.
And throughout the engineering world, it we always build a virtual machine.
And a lot of times those are just what we call programming languages.
Right?
So if we think about like the electrical activity of the cell and it has some kind of software, it also will h have evolved, it seems likely, some kind of other abstraction um to make it operate more efficiently.
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