Willow Defebaugh

All from one eruption.

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And thank you.

How do you approach the research for all of this, by the way?

You also have said that we read other people's lives in some way to learn about our own.

What did you learn about yourself in immersing in these people's lives?

It's so interesting because I resonate with that really deeply, but in a different way also, because for me, that's really how I write the overview and that's how I've been writing it.

But instead of other humans, it's more than human life.

You know, I want to understand how other species have learned to adapt and survive through life.

Right.

And like that, that brings me such comfort.

I appreciate that because my interest or my goal is not to make any other species more human because we have enough humans.

More than enough.

I want to learn how to be more like every other species, right?

It's like less of trying to bring them into our world and more... More lichen every other species.

She says with lichen sewn under her shirt.