Winston Marshall
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard 13 May
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And he didn't coin the phrase civic nationalism, but his thesis basically was what would become civic nationalism, which is civic nationalism, good, is... democracy, I guess, geographic sovereignty or lands, you know, sovereignty, and a sort of civic duty.
And then on the other side, they have ethnicity, which we probably all, it's different from country to country, but we all agree that it's a bad idea to say just ethnicity is on the other side of, it's the ethno-nationalism. But they also lumped in culture. So they put the cultural side in the ethno bucket. So you have this growth now.
So people, fast forward 80 years and you have diversity as our greatest strength, when actually I happen to believe unity is our greatest strength, or rather I should say diversity without unity it all kind of crumbles apart.
Well, they did that as a reaction to the Holocaust. Yes, yes. And to the war. To the war. And that's, by the way, what we're seeing crumbling now. That's why when people are so upset about J.D. Vance's speech in Munich,
It's because they can't... Anything that goes against the open society ideology, they have this dichotomy, which is a false dichotomy, which means that if you're against that, you must be for the Holocaust. Right, you must be a fascist. You must be a fascist. That's why they use the term fascism, because they actually can't code it any other way. They don't even know they have this ideology.
They've been swimming in it for so long.
So that's exactly what happened. And they deliberately got rid of any relationship with the nation, with the country, even though these are ancient things. The English people are an ancient people. This is deep within our psyche. I believe, although, I mean, you better answer. I'd like to know from your point of view, what is the correct relationship to have with one's nation?
Because it seems that the lesson after World War II was that there is no correct relationship. This wasn't the same lesson in America, by the way, because I think that their lesson was, we Americans ended, we defeated the Nazis. And kind of had that... Without being responsible for them. Without being responsible. But Europe had a completely different...
A story for itself about what happened.
And you'd think the British would have had the same response, seeing as even at one point, we were the only ones standing against the Nazis. Yeah, right, right.
It's been suppressed across time to the point now that if you even have an England flag draped across your front door, you're besmirched and belittled as far-right and racist.
Yeah, and we have lost us. Not only have we lost our story. It's been destroyed. It's been destroyed not only by the open society ideologues, but also by the Marxists. And you can see what's going on in the schools with that.
They've completely twisted our story so that instead of it being that we are the people that stood up against the Nazis, we are the people that defeated Hitler, we are the people, the British I'm talking about, that ended slavery. At great cost, the cost of billions and of thousands of British men. We are the people that defeated Napoleon.
Instead, young children are coming out of school thinking British Englishness, it's evil. And so the whole country, I believe, is falling apart because of that. We're really in the period of chaos. And that's why also you have, you know, Sadiq Khan banging on, as I said, diversity is our greatest strength. That's intentionally because that's their proposition.
That's the best they've got, but it can't last. And so, again, back to the arc, it was a feeling like, okay, maybe it's okay. Maybe it's okay to actually feel these things. But the question that hasn't been answered is, What is the correct relationship for the British with their story that includes all of these people that have come here, who have their own stories?
And without answering that question, we won't find unity as a nation.
And so there's a, if you don't mind, a slight side. But the irony is that Karl Popper actually spoke more about totalitarian Marx, Marxism, in his open societies, his famous open societies. Then he did about Nazism, of course he was criticizing Nazism, as a refugee in New Zealand, a Jewish refugee from Austria.
But the irony of that is that it's the famous tolerance paradox, which is actually buried in a footnote in that book. Where he writes, we should consider it criminal, those who, he doesn't use the word inspire intolerance, but that essentially inspire intolerance.
So even though he wrote against both Marxist and fascist totalitarianism, buried within there was the seed for a new type of totalitarianism that's, I think, emerged.
So within as well as between societies.
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