Yannis Antonoglou

We have a team, similarly to other labs, that is looking into safety, kind of like red teaming, adversarial attacks.

They really battle test our models.

At the same time, again, it goes back to working with the community.

And by just putting the models out there, we also want to encourage other research groups to just think more about safety and exactly what safety looks like at the frontier and models of that are really powerful.

You know, I think that even if you look at the operating systems, right, like by having an open source operating system, like eventually you get like safer operating systems because like people just like try and solve the bugs and just like contribute to the source code rather than having them like closed.

Exactly.

And they're more...

in some devices.

Yeah, more people are using it.

They, like, bugs just, like, surface, like, faster.

There are, like, more contributors who try to just, like, fix the bugs.

So it's kind of, like, really just, you know, trying to fundamentally we think that, like, people are good people.

Like, most people are good people.

There are, like, bad actors out there.

There are always, like, bad actors.

But, like,

So I mean, I think it really boils down to capabilities, right?

Like you want models that are really capable.

And again, I really think that I don't see a reason why the open models cannot be the most capable models.

The most capable Chinese models are actually open.