Yannis Antonoglou

Not, not yet.

Totally.

But, uh, it is, uh, it is insane.

Like how far we've come.

Like, you know, I've been, I've been doing AI for like

like almost 14 years now and kind of like thinking where the industry was when I started and like where it's now with like the coding agents, like on a day and night.

At the same time, I really, I mean, I like Cloud Code.

I think that like it's a really, really good piece of technology.

I think that like Atropic has done really good work there, just like building that.

So, you know, good to them.

I've also used Kershner in the past, and that's also something that I found useful.

To me, I feel like we're getting to the point, we're not quite there yet, but I feel like we'll just get there in the next few months, where the...

Like the programmer spends more time kind of like designing and just like architecting and less time about like really kind of like, you know, writing the code.

I mean, even today, you still need to just like go into the weeds and just like write the code.

But like these agents become more and more powerful.

So I think like we're not that far away from actually just like being the conductors of like an agent orchestra that like writes the code.

And that's what I want to see in the next year.

Yes, yes.

There are many, many players out there.

And I think this is because...