Zach Phillips

So I'm all for that.

Okay, let me ask you this.

We'll close on this one.

save it in the chamber and don't put it out there when he dropped that bombshell a couple of weeks ago.

But I think the biggest way I can answer that question, and it was a fair question going into the Chaika administration, what does this team have to give up to acquire the necessary assets to turn things around?

But I think if there's one thing you can draw from today,

It's that they're not looking to rebuild.

They're not even going to get anywhere close to what Vancouver's been saying the last six months.

Their systems go, we're trying to make the playoffs.

We're trying to succeed in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

At least that's my feel when you bring in a 30-year-old.

That's exactly it.

It comes down to horniness, for lack of a better term.

I think the goal in a scenario where you're trading Matthew Nyes, and I know we heard about the leaked offer with the Montreal Canadiens.

I'm sure a lot of other teams, including Buffalo, were all around Matthew Nyes.

I think a lot of teams.

I think what you're shooting for is desperation.

In fact, Zach and I were talking last night, among others, about

About like, let's say a team like Chicago approached the Maple Leafs and were like, man, we're really feeling the pressure.

Like Conor Bedard, kid's a stud.