Zach Phillips

It is.

But I think the jury is still out on Hiller.

I think if it were me and Bruce Cassidy sitting right there, he's the best option available.

I love the Woodcroft shout too, but they've landed on Hiller and I don't mind the attachment to some of these guys.

But again, it's much different being an assistant in this market than a head coach.

Is that my title now?

People want to be excited, especially in this fan base.

People want a winner.

It's been a long time.

It's been a decade.

I still think they've lost the plot in this market that the goal is the Stanley Cup playoffs.

And then I look at the track records, like Dennis brought this up, Jim Hiller, his numbers are not great as a head coach in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Granted, you had to play Edmonton.

I get that.

I just talked about Quentin Byfield too.

But the one thing that I get back to and people lose sight of is the people who actually play the game.

I don't know if you, even if you had Scotty Bowman in his prime and he's coaching the Marners of the world, the Nylanders, the Tavareses, the Matthews in the playoffs where they just can't push through.

There's just too many ghost-like games.

And so ultimately, my head, part of it still goes back to the core of this franchise and this team.

And can you truly win with Austin Matthews or Nylander or Riley?