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Zack Kass

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500 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

What did he want?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

He didn't want more money and he didn't want safer working conditions.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

The two tenants of every labor union since we organized labor, he wanted a guarantee from the ports that they would not automate their jobs.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

The picket signs read robots don't pay taxes and automation harms families.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And I mean, I stared at this and I was like, I had this unforgettable sense that this was the first of many such incidents.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And so I sent him a long, thoughtful email.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

I talked about how I understood the plight of the worker and, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And he sent me something very different, very different back.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

He did not want to meet with me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

But we met with a bunch of the long Sherman and we interviewed these guys.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And we interviewed about 30 of them quite extensively off the record.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And the results are in the book, so I won't spoil too much.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

But suffice it to say, these conversations changed how I understood this problem.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

And we asked them a battery of questions, of which four I will tell you about.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

The first question we asked that told us everything we needed to know.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

Was anyone in your family in the union?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

Of the respondents, 91% said yes.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

Second question, do you believe you could be gainfully employed outside the union?

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

Over 90% of the respondents said agree or strongly agree.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
OpenAI's Former Head of GTM: What Leaders Get Wrong About AI & What’s Coming Next | Zack Kass | E142

Third question, do you want anyone in your family to join the union?