Zahi Hawass

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I know, but it's not true. I received many theories every day. My mind, Joe, now is really cannot stand all these theories, all of it. It's too much for me. It's too much for me.
Bufal is not a scientist. No, I'm just asking. Yeah, I know. Those people, when someone came to you with a theory, he has to have an Egyptian background. He has to write a scientific article. We write all what we discover. We write articles about them for people to read and criticize and give us opinion. But I can't go to theories like this that has no basis.
We base dating on the evidence that we discover.
No, I don't believe in carbon date 14 at all.
Why not? Carbon date 13 never given accurate dating. And this why I believe, you know, when you discover something, if you discover a symmetry, right, there is two type of datings, one called absolute dating. means that in this cemetery, you have a name of a king and a date, means this is absolute.
But if you discover another cemetery and has no dates, then the best thing that we do is to find the artifacts in this symmetry and try to compare it with other dated symmetry and you give a date for this.
I don't believe in carbon dot 14 at all and it's not working in Egypt until today. I have been excavating, I'm excavating also in the Vale of the Kings. And I discovered major important things that we can talk about. But I used radar in all my excavation. And I never had a result by radar. And carbon date 14, people use it when there is no date.
No, I use radar to discover things. Right. But what do you use to date them? Dating, as I told you, two methods of dating. Yeah. Most of the dating that for me now in Luxor is based on evidence. Like I discovered the Golden City. It's a major, big, large cemetery, large settlement, a city. And you know, this city was chosen because
the most important discovery in the world of year 2021, because this is the first time that we have a big, large city to tell us about the people who made this civilization. So how do you know how old the city is? Exactly. In the city, we discovered the names everywhere of King Amenhotep III, who was the father of Akhenaten. Inside the city, we found many statutes of his queen, Queen Ti.
We found inscriptions about dried meat stored to celebrate the third set festival of Amenhotep III. We found nine royal workshops in the city. Then the city tells us about the golden age of that king. It is dated by pottery, by hieroglyphic inscription, by many things.
It is, but I never used it. And many people, very rare, used it in Egypt. Because in Egypt, mainly, we have absolute chronology. We have absolute dating based on inscriptions.
No, that was an experiment to date the pyramid. I think it was about 2009. And it's not working. I didn't see the result.
No. But the mortar, you can't. One thing. The mortar... between the stones. This mortar, like if you take a piece of stone from the pyramid and you try to take Kerbal 14, this piece of stone could be thousands of years in the quarry. It cannot date a pyramid. How can you date? Hold on, hold on. You don't date stone. I'm saying if you date mortar,
How can you say accurately that this mortar is dated to the same time of building the pyramid?
Of the pyramid? Yes. No, of the Great Pyramid. There is no evidence of any restoration. No, never. Never any accurate evidence that the pyramid was restored in any period of the Egyptian history.
make 10 years of restoration of the Sphinx. It's me who did the restoration of the Sphinx for 10 years. Why did you decide to do that? Because the Sphinx, when I left, I was studying in the States. I came to take my doctorate from University of Pennsylvania from 1980. From 80 to 87, some architect and archaeologist were really stupid.
They began to restore the Sphinx and they took all the casing stones of the Sphinx out. And they put modern stones and they used cement. You cannot use cement in the restoration. You can use cement in building a house. Yeah, that's not even restoration. That's a new creation. When I came, I stopped this restoration. Okay. And because this restoration...
damage completely the proportions of the Sphinx. It brings to you another Sphinx. Ugly. A few months later, there was a stone that was restored in the shoulder of the Sphinx and it fell down in February. It was raining. And always people use The Sphinx for politics. The Sphinx? For politics? Yeah. I tell you, it happened the first time in the Pharaonic period.
You know, the area beside the Sphinx was called the Valley of Gazelles. And the princess of the new kingdom used to come to hunt wild animals in the valley and come to worship the Sphinx. And this story that I'm telling you is written in a granite stela. It's called the dream stela, located now between the two poles of the Sphinx.
In the stela, it say that Thutmose IV was a prince and he came to have a nap beside the Sphinx. And the Sphinx came to him in dream and told him, my son, If you remove the sand away, I will make you the king of Egypt. Then he moved the sand and he came to a temple. He found a door. What year was this? This is 3000 years ago. Exactly.
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