Zahi Hawass

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284 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jan 2025 last heard May 2025

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Yes. This is why Herodotus, the father of history, when he came to Egypt in the middle of the fifth century B.C., he never talked about the Sphinx because it's completely under the sand. Then when Thutmose the fourth came, he took the sand away and he found that the old kingdom casing blocks are falling down. He put them back. And he went to the Sphinx, a temple nearby.
He took this granite stele as a door and he wrote this story in it. But we found there is something politics in that story. He killed his elder brother, who was supposed to be the king of Egypt. And he wrote this story to tell the Egyptian that, The God, Hor Im Akhet, Horus of the Horizon. It chose me to be the king of Egypt. Then they will forgive the crime that he did.
When that stone, it fell down in 1988, a big fight happened between the head of antiquities and the menace of culture. Ended by firing the head of antiquities. It's politics. But I stayed 10 years. When people ask me about the best thing that I did in my life, I say two things. Number one, that I restored the Sphinx. I brought the proportion of the Sphinx back.
And I restored the oldest pyramid in Egypt, the steep pyramid. It was falling down. In 14 years, I made major important conservation and restoration. And I tell people, why do I have to fight all the time about the age of the pyramid? We have to fight. We have to cooperate, all of us, to restore these monuments. And the most important thing for me always is conservation.
And I dedicate most of my life not only to the excavation, but to conservation.
I never heard of this.
No, it's only new. It's a theory from the new age.
That's not true. I never heard about this.
It's not true what they're telling me.
Look at the archaeologists. in Turkey or in any civilization. They never talk about old civilization.
I am talking now about Egypt.
No, I understand.
But now I'm talking about the pyramids of Egypt. I have the evidence, the written We found everything about that. We know the dating. And I give you hundreds of evidence that this pyramid built by Khufu.
What I'm saying is... Any civilization older than we know... Older and still in the same spot. How old does it go back?
Okay, we have, do you have, can you listen to me?
We have prehistoric Egypt. Right. And we have the Old Stone Age, Middle Stone Age, Neolithic, when the Egyptians began to know about agriculture. And they began to live together in communities. Then after that, we came to the pre-dynastic era.
When a king called Narmer in dynasty zero, he began to make unification of the upper and lower Asia until one king called Mena or Horaha who united completely. And what year was this? This is what was 3000 BC, 5000 years ago. In a place called Aparis, they built huge mud brick tombs. Huge. from mud brick, no stones. And these tombs are created in a site called Abiris.
Okay. Now I come back to the mud brick structure. This is in Dynasty 1 and 2. On Dynasty 3 came a king called Zoser. He had a genius architect. His name is Imhotep. I am searching Did you hear about Imhotep before? Yes. I'm searching for his tomb. Only two weeks ago, before I came, I made a major important discovery in Egypt.
I found a tomb of a son of a king inside incredible statues of Zosir and his father and his queens and his children. Where is this tomb? In the shadow of the steppe pyramid. In the shadow of Zosir. And this really made me, because I have been searching for the tomb of Imhotep most of my life. But the area that I found this tomb, it was under houses. Modern houses. Oh, wow.
The workmen who work in the site, 100 years ago, they built houses in the site. But they never excavated what's underneath the houses. Wow. So modern houses and underneath it is an ancient tomb. Six months ago, we gave houses to these people in another area and we demolished these houses. And we found underneath major discoveries. This discovery will be in today's show this week.
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