Zak Brown

But from there, you actually had a career as a driver.

Yeah, for 10 years.

Tell us about that, for 10 years.

For 10 years.

So I was successful in karting, so then I wanted to pursue my dream of Formula One.

It requires sponsorship.

My family wasn't in a position to support me much, certainly by racing standards, my

Mom gave me her salary for one year, which was enough to move to England, which was very great of her, but not enough to go beyond that.

But she was a travel agent, still is a travel agent, knew someone at TWA who liked racing.

So they gave me some airline tickets, which I would then barter and sell.

And that's how I got started in the sponsorship business.

So I would go to companies and go...

give me 50 grand to go racing.

And not only will I put your logo on my race car, you can have some hospitality.

I'll give 50 grand in airline tickets to match it.

And so it was kind of a, that's a good deal.

So that's how I got started.

Then I became obsessed with both my racing career and the need for sponsorship.

So I just,

I started calling everyone and just trying to understand how does it all work.